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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg so ladies and

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gentlemen the big question that arises

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here in the power cast is will the

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Mayans kidnap Christopher O Brien

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because he's trying to probe into their

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mysteries

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yeah maybe they'll tear my heart out I

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don't like I didn't that Indiana Jones

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movie or was that a brain I lose track

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you need to have these horror movies

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where these adventure movies where

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somebody pulls the heart out they do

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that on the TV series once upon a time

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but it's not as graphic it's a glowing

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how about Apocalypto Mel Gibson's

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propaganda piece on the Maya that came

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out about four years ago you know why

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it's one of the movies I am so glad I

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never bothered to consider seeing it's

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actually very good a wise it as a you

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know is popcorn munch and you know

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Saturday matinee fare but pretty

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inaccurate in terms of the actual

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culture and the time frame interesting

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characters interesting plot really well

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produced in terms of the set design and

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costumes and everything yeah I'm gonna

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be going down into sub commando Marcos

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and the zapatistas old haunts and

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stomping grounds were not only gonna be

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going to Palenque which of course was

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the crown jewel city of the height of

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the classic period between six and 800

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AD but we're gonna head down to the last

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to classic period cities right on the

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border of Guatemala on the use of cement

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to River Bonin Park and Yauch at lon

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everybody's getting out Apple maps right

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now there you go but the problem is of

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course Apple Maps has had a problem

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where the directions are frequently off

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like for example Columbia South Carolina

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now Columbia is this cap

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south carolina you'd think that a

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mapping program can figure out where

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columbia south carolina is but if you do

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the search columbia SC up until recently

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would take you to somewhere in south

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america

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geez oh well so much for Apple ruling

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the world huh

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well they kind of fixed it but the

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executive in charge of that division has

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been as they say Tim they can no longer

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be Steve because Steve Jobs is dead so

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he was teamed well it's got four stock

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let's cover lots of other stuff because

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we're gonna be looking forward to lots

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and lots of stories on your excursion

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south of here yeah so that's gonna be

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fun right oh it's gonna be extruded I

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wish I could do that someday I will but

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I'm not the adventurer type I'm mostly a

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hermit I just sit in my house and I

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pretend I live vicariously I write

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science fiction with my son and I

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pretend to go to other places outer

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space like for example we just came out

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with a sequel to that book that Grayson

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and I wrote called attack of the Rockets

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it's called the coming of the protectors

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and we have this beautiful cover and

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it's gonna be on sale from Amazon just a

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couple of days do you mind if I just

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plug my own stuff I mean we bring on

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authors all the time almost every show

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has somebody who has a book to plug or a

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site to present or some kind of

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convention to bring people to so I'm

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gonna promote a book how about that no

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that's fine

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protectors that's right

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so what do you do you just rub them

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really hard the protector is a dangerous

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race of changelings on a fanatic and

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holy mission to conquer the galaxy whoa

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is one of them named Trojan no no that

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kind of horsey conversation here hey we

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had an interesting comment on iTunes you

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know I think there's a small group of

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people who are part of what we call the

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power castes hate Brigade they hate us

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they hate what we do and they take

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anything and they exaggerate it so we

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had a guest on the show a couple of

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weeks ago kind of a skeptical kind of

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person they're really good show guy

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named XPath

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so this person posting on itunes says

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this guy is a dribbling drunk willie

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that's right a dribbling drunk yeah you

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know if you're gonna be a drunk that's

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one thing with a dribbling drunk my

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goodness hmm is there any other kind I

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don't know that's insulting that's

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offensive and it's like the people who

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would criticize expat saying that he

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must be gay which has to be something

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offensive to these people or he must be

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something a douchebag I think that was

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the other comment about the D be the D

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be comment and that's unfortunate then

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we have the great gene Steinberg

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advertising conspiracy here's how it

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works

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I'm responsible for all the ads you hear

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on the power cast and I therefore I

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select the worst ones possible of course

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that's ridiculous what really happens is

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this we're responsible for the first

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minute of most ad breaks these are ads

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that normally I do the recording for we

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want you to listen to those ads

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hopefully buy the product or service if

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you do they'll come back they'll give us

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a paycheck and that's how we survive as

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far as the rest of the ads are concerned

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here's how it works

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the network picks them we don't pick

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them the local stations pick them we

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don't pick them if you don't like those

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ads don't buy the product or service

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they won't come back if you find them

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objectionable for any reason write to

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the network or your local station and

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explain why that's how things work some

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of the ads are real head scratches now

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you can carry with confidence of course

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you have those ads it might be kind of

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questionable they say when you take the

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pill instead of waiting 30 minutes you

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can just wait 7 seconds and then friends

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you're ready to rumble so basically

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what's going to happen here they're not

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saying that you're gonna be ready in 7

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seconds as saying it'll take 7 seconds

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save several minutes it'll take several

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seconds well pardon I said that must

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suck for her sure but you know you have

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all these crazy things they advertise

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and I am NOT gonna be here to say they

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don't work you know the best thing to do

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if you hear product

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and interest you do a Google do a Bing

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search see what's happening see if you

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like what the product has to offer and

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then see what other people say about it

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do your research do your research I mean

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if it's a few dollars it doesn't matter

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you have fun if it costs you a lot of

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money don't just spend your money and

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we'll say this about any advertiser we

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have advertisers on the power cast the

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ones you hear me ringing the commercials

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for we think they have good stuff and if

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you disagree let us know but before you

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pay your money and takes your choice as

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they say check it out online see what

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other people say then you make your

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decision and decide what to buy I don't

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know how we got into this discussion you

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know there's a guy who we've considered

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having on the power cast for quite a bit

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of time he's someone who I guess

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emphasizes UFOs and strange mysteries

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with kind of a Nazi connection Joseph

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Ferrell now when it comes to Joseph

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Ferrell I know a lot of you listeners

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have contacted us at the power cast and

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suggested we have him on as a guest I

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guess for some reason we didn't but now

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we decided to get him on how do we get

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him well Joseph is like you know I've

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read practically every book he's written

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I'm a big fan of his he brings a whole

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man-made UFO perspective into the field

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that is not very popular and you know

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being a I think he's an Oxford scholar a

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research scholar I may be wrong it may

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be Cambridge but I'm pretty sure it's

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Oxford he well it says here at his

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website which is called Giza Death

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Starcom that he got his doctorate from

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the University of Oxford so I guess that

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settles it he's just an amazing

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researcher I I just I love his books the

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SS Brotherhood of the Bell Reich of the

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Black Sun I've just read saucers

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swastikas and psyops the one before that

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was Roswell and the Reich he comes up

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with some amazing stuff that really

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makes you scratch your head and think

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perhaps there is as Richard Dolan puts

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it a breakaway civilization that somehow

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broke through with a new and different

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type of physics back in the 20s and 30s

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and has been quietly developing any

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graph technology potentially vortex

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technology and maybe the saucers that

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we're seeing in the early 40s were we're

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actually man-made saucers and we're

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gonna have some fun with this and I'm

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sure it's gonna generate quite a quite a

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response on inform dr. Peric ascom he's

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he's really good and we've I've been

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trying to get a hold of him to get him

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on the show on and off for three years

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and we finally were able to last sue him

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and then I'm really looking forward to

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this gene

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once again neighbors will be talking to

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Joseph Ferrell about UFOs Nazi science

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secret space programs and more Joseph

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Ferrell coming momentarily you're in the

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Joseph Ferrell joining us this week on

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the para cast with Gene and Chris Joseph

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first of all before we get into more

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details about all the things you've done

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let's introduce our listeners to what

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you're all about what is your background

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in this field how to get interested in

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looking at as we say alternate theories

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about UFOs well my background basically

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I have a background in philosophy and

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theology a lot of people mistake that

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background for a background in physics

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but that was that was kind of a

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publisher's hair or more than anything

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else but I've always been interested in

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subjects like this I I grew up around a

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father that was an engineer so I had

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always a kind of a scientific interest

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and of course most of his friends are

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engineer as I grew up around so it's

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it's always been something and

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fascinated me when I decided to leave

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academia I just decided to bite the

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bullets start writing about my crazy

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ideas and that's where that's where it

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all got started now speaking of the

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crazy ideas uh-huh

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and I think one of the issues that we

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all look at when we hear your name we

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hear UFOs Nazis world war two secret

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development secret weapons what

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attracted you to that subject well in

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World War two in the military history of

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the war particularly the European

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theater and there were always things

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that bothered me about World War two and

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and what I consider kind of the Allied

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legend about the first big whopper as

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far as I'm concerned is that we're asked

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to believe that the nation that

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basically invented quantum mechanics and

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nuclear physics ended up during the war

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being a bunch of egregious bunglers

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in terms of their nuclear program so

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after German reunification I thought

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well this is it there's there's gonna be

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fallout from that event that's going to

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challenge the the post-war halide legend

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about German incompetence and in nuclear

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matters but you know something else let

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me just interject something here Joseph

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we say that they were incompetent but if

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you look at the early space program from

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the US and the then Soviet Union right

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all the key scientists came from Nazi

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Germany thing about that and the v2

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rocket everything else they were there

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first right well this is the other

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aspect of the story that kind of blends

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into our to our UFO theme you know I've

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written several books about Nazi secret

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weapons and and the post-war Nazi

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influence and the reason why I've

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written several books is that it is such

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a huge story it takes more than one book

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to tell the story but let's look at what

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happens at the end of World War two and

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then the immediate aftermath if you look

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very carefully at what's going on at the

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end of World War two

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you have the Nazis themselves driving

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the technological division of the Spoils

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in other words you have the premiere

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Nazi scientists being directed more or

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less to the West so the United States

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ends up with the creme de la creme of

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the German rocket scientist we get

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Marilyn Brown and general walter

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dornberger art or rudolph who bare -

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strughold for space medicine and so on

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and so forth we get all the big names

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but if you look at the Soviet Union they

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managed to get away with hundreds of

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middle Ashland project managers that are

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able to reconstruct the documents for

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the Soviets so in other words we are

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being set up during the war by the Nazis

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as the worst drawing to a conclusion

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we're being set up for a post-war

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stalemate we're being set up for a space

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race now the other part of this story as

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I say is the nuclear part

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the story and you know I wrote a whole

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book called Reich of the Black Sun it's

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full of all sorts of typographical

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errors but nonetheless I think it's it's

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one of my better books because I argue

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the point in that book that it is very

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very likely that the Nazi a bomb program

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was at least successful to the extent

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that they were able to refine and enrich

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a lot of uranium and it may have been

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successfully enough to have actually

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tested an atomic bomb before the end of

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the war so in other words the complete

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history of Nazi secret weapons

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development I think needs to be very

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very carefully reassessed all right now

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this gets to create a complicated series

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here so you mention here that we got the

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key scientists right Lerner von Braun

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Oberth all these people they got the

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project managers who could do the

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production they got the Tim Cook's like

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we mentioned the guy at Apple who was a

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great operations guy how did this

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breakdown happen was it a matter of luck

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of the draw or what no no I think this

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was very definitely part of the

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strategic calculation of the Nazis at

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the end of the war in other words I

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think they are very deliberately

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directing the division not only of the

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technological spoils themselves but of

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the scientists behind them all right

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so in other words my point in saying

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that we get the creme de la creme if you

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go back and read the memoirs of fun

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Brown and so on and so forth very

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clearly they exhibit a preference for

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the Americans but on the other side you

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have all of these middle Ashland

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managers being more or less shunted

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toward the Soviet bloc so in other words

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the Nazis themselves are deliberately

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determining this more or less even

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division of the spoils but the fact of

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the matter is and this this is kind of

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the subject of one of the books in that

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Nazi series a book called the Nazi

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international the fact of the matter is

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some of their Advanced Research Projects

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they keep to themselves

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and pursue after the war and this is a

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key key point they pursue some of these

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advanced projects themselves after the

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war in host countries like Argentina so

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in other words the most advanced stuff

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they're keeping to themselves while

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they're giving away v2 rockets and so on

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and so forth to the Allies into the

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Soviet bloc this is a huge huge part of

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the story okay now the big question I

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have to ask here is if they had all

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these great developments how did they

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lose the war oh very easily I mean if

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you study the operational history of

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World War two a lot of it was simply

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strategic decision making blunders on

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the part of Otto Hitler let me give you

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two examples the first would be towards

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June and July of 1940 and Hitler commits

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a series of strategic blunders basically

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after winning the war in the West the

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first of course was to allow the British

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and French to escape on the beaches of

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Dunkirk and to fall to hermann goering

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idea that the list of often could

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basically take out the British and

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French forces trapped there on the

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beaches the second decision it's a much

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bigger blunder that he makes in July of

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1940 is that reichsmarschall Goering

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and Grand Admiral Parrish Raider both

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devised a strategic plan at that point

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after the fall of France to take Britain

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completely out of the war by an indirect

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means and the means was they would

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station most of their airborne troops in

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France to pin British troops in the home

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islands themselves while directing three

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different arming groups to cut off

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Britain's supply of oil

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all right neighbours let's stop here for

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a moment we got a few points to make

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here that Joseph wants to emphasize but

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we got do the break also with Jean and

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Chris we're joined by Joseph Farrell

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just a feral joining gene and Chris in

622
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the para cast and now he's explaining in

623
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:17,999
lots of details the things that caused

624
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:20,399
the Nazis to lose the war despite their

625
00:27:24,349 --> 00:27:22,169
incredible scientific achievements and

626
00:27:25,879 --> 00:27:24,359
you were talking about the British here

627
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and you were about to enumerate a few

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points can I do that now

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well the 1940 decision of Adolf Hitler

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not to pursue what was called the

631
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Mediterranean plan that basically was

632
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hatched by by reichsmarschall Goering

633
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and Grand Admiral Erich Raeder there

634
00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:42,989
would be three army groups one in

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advancing through Spain to cut off the

636
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supplies from Gibraltar another from an

637
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Italian Libya into Egypt to cut the oil

638
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rich through Egypt and then finally a

639
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third group down through Turkey and into

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the Middle East that direction now

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Britain simply did not have the on the

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ground forces to be able to combat all

643
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of these stress in other words it would

644
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have been left posturing basically by

645
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the loss of its oil supply well that was

646
00:28:15,409 --> 00:28:12,659
one strategic decision that Hitler for

647
00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:15,419
whatever reason did not pursue the

648
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second strategic decision and it's the

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one that I think many military analysts

650
00:28:28,219 --> 00:28:24,749
would agree probably cost him war was in

651
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August of 1941 after the German invasion

652
00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:31,440
of the Soviet Union when in fact the

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Vermont had so decimated the Red Army

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and it stood about 250 miles from Moscow

655
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and in the Russian city called small

656
00:28:46,849 --> 00:28:43,109
ants in Beulah Russian Hitler took the

657
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:46,859
decision to turn the main Panzer armies

658
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:51,330
south 650 miles to encircle Russian

659
00:28:56,989 --> 00:28:53,940
forces at Kiev so this operation

660
00:28:59,180 --> 00:28:56,999
literally took months and it was October

661
00:29:01,879 --> 00:28:59,190
by the time that this concert group got

662
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,889
back into position had Smolensk ready

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for the assault on Moscow and that

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probably cost in war so he makes a

665
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:08,999
number of these blunders that from my

666
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,090
point of view I think Costabile

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00:29:13,789 --> 00:29:12,960
operationally you can have all the

668
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:13,799
secret weapons

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that you want but but they've got to be

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brought online soon and the fact of the

671
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:20,610
matter is you're independent in the

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meantime on military success of your

673
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ground operations so these things cost

674
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:28,440
in war okay now we go back to this now

675
00:29:34,909 --> 00:29:31,529
we have parity or standoff situation

676
00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:34,919
with the US and Soviet Union but the

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real developments are happening in

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Argentina yes okay now we've heard about

679
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:41,820
things going on in Argentina through the

680
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:44,700
years in the UFO field so can you give

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00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:46,710
us kind of a backstory here a history of

682
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:50,279
what went on not just then but does any

683
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:51,299
of it exist today

684
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:54,720
oh great question what happens after

685
00:30:00,680 --> 00:29:57,570
after the war in Argentina with the

686
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Nazis is you have a fellow by the name

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00:30:06,909 --> 00:30:03,649
of dr. Ronald reefster developing

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ostensibly with the support of the

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00:30:13,940 --> 00:30:10,399
parent a technique or technology of

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00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:13,950
fusion control for all intents and

691
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:15,929
purposes he was kind of working on a

692
00:30:20,930 --> 00:30:17,909
version of cold fusion and now this is

693
00:30:24,859 --> 00:30:20,940
back in the 1950s the interesting thing

694
00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:24,869
about dr. Richter and when you examine

695
00:30:30,739 --> 00:30:27,659
his project is that there are a number

696
00:30:32,989 --> 00:30:30,749
of detailed connections to the project

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00:30:34,879 --> 00:30:32,999
in Nazi Germany that's known as the Bell

698
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:34,889
all right in fact the detailed

699
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:37,980
connections are so numerous that in my

700
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,289
opinion what you have going on in

701
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:43,440
Argentina is a continuation of that Bell

702
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:45,929
project or at least certain aspects of

703
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:47,970
it the other thing going on in Argentina

704
00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:50,580
that I point out in in Roswell in the

705
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:52,590
Reich is that you have the Horton

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00:30:59,899 --> 00:30:54,809
brothers that invented that German

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00:31:01,849 --> 00:30:59,909
flying wing that I think 1938 1939 made

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00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:01,859
its first test flights and incidentally

709
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:03,899
that flying wing has a very very low

710
00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:07,769
radar cross-section even to this day so

711
00:31:11,479 --> 00:31:09,230
in other words they're developing

712
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,489
basically what we would consider stealth

713
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:13,440
technologies well the Horton brothers

714
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:15,480
make it to Argentina and what they're

715
00:31:18,859 --> 00:31:16,440
doing down there

716
00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:18,869
is they're designing lots of advanced

717
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:21,480
jet aircraft for again for for Juan

718
00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:23,820
perón's government so my point in

719
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:26,950
raising these these ideas is that

720
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:29,710
once again you have very clear indicator

721
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,769
that the Nazis set themselves up after

722
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:34,480
the war they created the funding they

723
00:31:39,899 --> 00:31:36,880
created the business connections and

724
00:31:42,350 --> 00:31:39,909
technology interfaces and so on to

725
00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:42,360
continue their most advanced projects

726
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:45,059
independently this is so crucial

727
00:31:53,490 --> 00:31:48,250
independently of either the Western bloc

728
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:53,500
or the Soviet Union now in 1951 Peron

729
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:56,049
gave a press conference

730
00:32:02,009 --> 00:31:58,960
to basically to the world to announce

731
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:02,019
the fact that dr. Richter and his team

732
00:32:08,669 --> 00:32:05,769
had in perón's words solved the problem

733
00:32:12,750 --> 00:32:08,679
or discovered the secret of the hydrogen

734
00:32:15,629 --> 00:32:12,760
bomb you know this is this is a 1951 in

735
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:15,639
Argentina this is kind of a preposterous

736
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:19,120
claim to be making and of course Peron

737
00:32:24,299 --> 00:32:21,570
was roundly denounced in the world press

738
00:32:26,269 --> 00:32:24,309
Richter was called a charlatan and a

739
00:32:29,299 --> 00:32:26,279
fraud and so on and so forth and

740
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:29,309
eventually Peron shut the project down

741
00:32:34,049 --> 00:32:32,529
now one of the things now I have to ask

742
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:34,059
you here sure why would he shut down

743
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:37,210
well hang on I'm getting one of the

744
00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:40,289
things that Richter claims in in his

745
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:43,240
claims at that period is that he's able

746
00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:46,210
to achieve fusion at much colder

747
00:32:51,299 --> 00:32:49,240
temperatures than the standard model of

748
00:32:54,779 --> 00:32:51,309
physics at that time and for that matter

749
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:54,789
to this day would accept all right and

750
00:33:02,909 --> 00:32:58,330
Richard goes further he even goes to the

751
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:02,919
point of saying that this has something

752
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:05,350
to do with being able to tap into the

753
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:09,789
zero-point energy now Perrin appoints a

754
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:12,730
commission when the world outcry in the

755
00:33:18,899 --> 00:33:16,240
press is is so overwhelming against

756
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:18,909
richer's claims Peron appoints a

757
00:33:24,659 --> 00:33:21,519
commission to go examine this laboratory

758
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:24,669
alright and as I point out in the Nazi

759
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:27,519
International Richter behaves like a

760
00:33:32,490 --> 00:33:30,010
complete fool in front of the

761
00:33:35,549 --> 00:33:32,500
Argentinian scientists going down there

762
00:33:37,769 --> 00:33:35,559
to examine his project and because of

763
00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:37,779
the foolishness of his behavior in the

764
00:33:42,390 --> 00:33:40,060
claims that he makes

765
00:33:46,110 --> 00:33:42,400
the Argentinian scientists advised Peron

766
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:46,120
to shut the project down now my point in

767
00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:49,210
stressing this is that Richter's

768
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,790
behavior is so outrageous and so

769
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:53,440
clueless I mean you don't have to be a

770
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:56,050
rocket scientist or a Nazi physicist to

771
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:58,210
figure out that not turning on your

772
00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:01,120
equipment is going to affect its not to

773
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:04,780
affect the experiment so I suspect that

774
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:07,630
what's really going on is that Richter

775
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:10,480
was ordered that he was under orders to

776
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:13,030
act this way to get the project shut

777
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:15,460
down and remove it from world scrutiny

778
00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:17,470
so that they could move the project

779
00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:19,870
elsewhere this is this is what I think

780
00:34:25,470 --> 00:34:22,540
happened now I have no idea where they

781
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:25,480
moved it to or who was involved with it

782
00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:28,560
but I can tell you this after Victor's

783
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:32,230
project was shut down three years later

784
00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:34,870
this is that there's reasons for this as

785
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:37,240
well the US Air Force secretly

786
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:40,840
interviews Forrester in Buenos Aires

787
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:44,800
where he's under house arrest and the

788
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,770
Air Force documents that I reproduce in

789
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:50,320
the Nazi International you have to read

790
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:52,810
them to understand the perp lection

791
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:56,530
that's going on at the upper levels of

792
00:35:01,950 --> 00:34:58,770
the American military-industrial

793
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:01,960
establishment because they don't know

794
00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:04,210
what to do or think about Richter and

795
00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:07,150
his claims some American scientists

796
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:09,220
think that he's nothing but a swindler a

797
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:12,010
fraud and a mountebank but other

798
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:14,410
American scientists are convinced that

799
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:17,170
the man's ideas are so advanced one

800
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:18,940
scientists even said that he's a mad

801
00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:22,180
genius working in the 1970s you know two

802
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:24,540
decades ahead of everybody else

803
00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:28,150
the real problem is when you read these

804
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:30,190
documents Richter is telling the Air

805
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:32,010
Force that yeah I'm continuing

806
00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:36,150
experiments of things that I observed in

807
00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:41,260
1936 in Nazi Germany so when you add it

808
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:44,440
all up what you've got going on in

809
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:46,570
Argentina is number one a continuation

810
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:48,730
of the Bell project number two the

811
00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:51,130
scientific conceptions are way way

812
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:52,990
either in advance

813
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:55,270
of anything that American scientists are

814
00:36:00,030 --> 00:35:57,490
thinking about or their completely

815
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,040
fraudulent there's no two ways between

816
00:36:05,609 --> 00:36:02,560
the two there's no middle ground well

817
00:36:08,190 --> 00:36:05,619
that brings me to a very I think

818
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important thing we need to bring up and

819
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that is aether physics and the role of

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the bell project and Harris breakaway

821
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branch of physics that you don't read

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about in your scientific magazines

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textbooks why don't you give us a little

824
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:27,490
background on this diversion of

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relativistic physics and what you and

826
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others have called aether physics okay

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before you do that Joe since we got to

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our break all right that time again okay

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Ecker and you are tuned in to the para

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cast let me tell you what you're gonna

934
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hear stuff here that you probably won't

935
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hear anywhere else hear that George

936
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Noory we have Joseph Ferrell joining

937
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938
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we're taking a look at the outgrowth of

939
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incredible or possibly incredible

940
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scientific discoveries from the Nazis

941
00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:28,460
Joseph was going to answer one of

942
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:31,070
Chris's detailed questions Joseph well

943
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:34,370
yeah the idea what you're calling ether

944
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:36,890
physics or some people would call

945
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:39,410
zero-point energy physics but quantum

946
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:41,690
back in flux you know scalar physics

947
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:43,760
whatever you wish to call it I think I

948
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think definitely this is something that

949
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:49,670
the Nazis were after and let me give you

950
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:53,330
the basic reason why when the Nazis came

951
00:42:01,210 --> 00:41:58,240
to power they set up within the SS to

952
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:01,220
research very very top secret research

953
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:05,810
bureaus one was an entity called fortune

954
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and McClellan law patent and other as

955
00:42:14,020 --> 00:42:11,810
research development patents this was

956
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:14,030
under the command of a four-star SS

957
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:17,270
general almost completely unknown fellow

958
00:42:23,410 --> 00:42:20,030
by the name of Emile matzo and the

959
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:23,420
mission brief of this department was to

960
00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:27,290
pull any patent that was made in Nazi

961
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Germany much like we do in this country

962
00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:31,160
that has any national security

963
00:42:37,150 --> 00:42:33,830
implications or that could be developed

964
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:37,160
all right and turn it over to another

965
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:39,920
bureau within the SS for the purpose of

966
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:42,710
development now this other bureau was

967
00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:45,230
called the if I can remember the name of

968
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it the anvil instead of fear the the

969
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:51,020
development area for the purpose of this

970
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:55,200
was to investigate so-called free

971
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,940
energy or what we're calling ether

972
00:43:02,000 --> 00:42:59,520
physics for the purpose of making Nazi

973
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,010
Germany energy independent and this in

974
00:43:07,579 --> 00:43:05,040
turn led in my opinion to the Bell

975
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:07,589
project let me make the Bell project

976
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:10,050
very clear as to what I think it was and

977
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:12,570
what I think it wasn't I think this

978
00:43:20,990 --> 00:43:15,839
project in all honesty is probably the

979
00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:21,000
core or center of the Nazi UFO mythos

980
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:24,270
alright the project in my opinion was

981
00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:27,930
set up as a gateway technology to

982
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:30,270
investigate so-called free energy or

983
00:43:34,099 --> 00:43:32,250
zero-point energy or ether physics

984
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:34,109
whatever you wish to call for three

985
00:43:38,210 --> 00:43:36,119
purposes the first purpose being to

986
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,220
develop that kind of energy to make

987
00:43:44,780 --> 00:43:41,280
Germany energy independence secondly to

988
00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:44,790
develop a real honest-to-goodness field

989
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:47,430
propulsion or if you prefer any gravity

990
00:43:54,349 --> 00:43:50,550
capability and the third thing that they

991
00:43:56,210 --> 00:43:54,359
want out of it is a doomsday weapon why

992
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:56,220
would that be so important what's the

993
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,140
connection with doomsday weapon and

994
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:00,720
ether physics and the connection is this

995
00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:06,000
if you have a technology that allows you

996
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:09,990
to engineer the fabric of space-time on

997
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:12,810
the laboratory bench and draw energy

998
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:17,210
from that ability then if you weaponize

999
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:21,839
that potential you have a potential

1000
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,630
weaponization capability that would make

1001
00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:26,880
our largest hydrogen bombs look like a

1002
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:29,940
kitchen match alright so in other words

1003
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:32,310
there after three things this is a

1004
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:36,119
gateway technology now the reason I say

1005
00:44:41,089 --> 00:44:39,660
it maybe the core of the Nazi UFO legend

1006
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,099
is twofold

1007
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,160
if you examine the research of each

1008
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:47,119
rivet Koski or nick cook or myself

1009
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:50,130
there's some evidence that suggests that

1010
00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:51,930
this Bell device when it was tested

1011
00:44:59,329 --> 00:44:55,140
outside actually levitated all right the

1012
00:45:02,599 --> 00:44:59,339
problem here is that that's all that is

1013
00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:02,609
said about it in other words they came

1014
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,470
up with a device that had a real field

1015
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,720
propulsion capability apparently it did

1016
00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:08,160
levitate but

1017
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:11,190
it didn't perform any of the fantastic

1018
00:45:16,279 --> 00:45:14,490
maneuvers of UFOs so in other words

1019
00:45:19,789 --> 00:45:16,289
we're looking at a gateway technology

1020
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:19,799
but it's not a Nazi UFO and that's what

1021
00:45:26,089 --> 00:45:23,609
makes it have the ring of reality to me

1022
00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:26,099
we're not dealing in other words with

1023
00:45:32,329 --> 00:45:28,670
the Bell project with fanciful claims

1024
00:45:34,549 --> 00:45:32,339
that are badly substantiating of the

1025
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:34,559
Nazis having built field propulsion

1026
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:37,530
flying saucers that went to the moon and

1027
00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:40,410
back or went to Mars and so on and so

1028
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:42,390
forth we're not dealing with any of that

1029
00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:43,530
happy nonsense

1030
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:46,980
we're dealing with a real project that

1031
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:50,609
has an apparent real physics behind it

1032
00:45:55,849 --> 00:45:52,859
once you reverse reverse engineering

1033
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:55,859
that was capable apparently according to

1034
00:46:00,589 --> 00:45:58,170
some witnesses of a basic field

1035
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:00,599
propulsion capability namely limitation

1036
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:03,569
so this is why the project greatly

1037
00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:05,220
greatly interest me and the incident

1038
00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:06,990
made this is the reason I think that

1039
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:10,200
they kept this project to themselves

1040
00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:12,329
after the war and continued to pursue

1041
00:46:17,539 --> 00:46:14,940
aspects of an in Argentina but at this

1042
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,549
point then where did it go is it

1043
00:46:21,529 --> 00:46:19,200
something that's dormant today you think

1044
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:21,539
if they got this far in the 1940s and

1045
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:22,049
50s

1046
00:46:28,099 --> 00:46:25,260
well it's 2012 what's that s'right well

1047
00:46:29,539 --> 00:46:28,109
I I don't think that you know if you

1048
00:46:31,220 --> 00:46:29,549
have a technology like this you're

1049
00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:31,230
certainly not just going to sit on up

1050
00:46:35,059 --> 00:46:33,480
and let it fall apart I think you're

1051
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,069
going to do whatever it takes to

1052
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:37,200
continue to investigate it but after

1053
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:41,099
1951 there isn't any trail from that

1054
00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:43,170
point on after they shut down Richter's

1055
00:46:48,740 --> 00:46:45,420
project as to where this project

1056
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:48,750
actually goes the closest thing that

1057
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:52,319
gives a faint indicator is believe it or

1058
00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:55,049
not the Kecksburg UFO crash and here's

1059
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:58,200
why in both cases you're dealing with an

1060
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:00,720
object that has the same approximate

1061
00:47:06,049 --> 00:47:03,839
shape in both cases you're dealing with

1062
00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:06,059
an object that has the same believe it

1063
00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:08,190
or not the same approximate dimensions

1064
00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:11,430
and in both cases this is what really

1065
00:47:17,029 --> 00:47:13,950
kind of sold the connection to me in the

1066
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:17,039
case of the Kecksburg object the story

1067
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:19,260
is if you if you follow the research and

1068
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:21,680
I think Stan Gordon

1069
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:24,170
if you follow that story it eventually

1070
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:26,329
ends up at wright-patterson Air Base in

1071
00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:31,520
Dayton Ohio and it's housed according to

1072
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:33,230
one fellow who worked for a local

1073
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:35,450
construction company the US Air Force is

1074
00:47:39,460 --> 00:47:37,130
suddenly after the Kecksburg incident

1075
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:39,470
called them up and ordered a bunch of

1076
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:42,470
ceramic bricks all right and he had to

1077
00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:44,270
deliver this to this warehouse where he

1078
00:47:50,890 --> 00:47:47,000
saw this acorn or bell-shaped object

1079
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:50,900
behind a silk screen well to me this is

1080
00:47:54,940 --> 00:47:53,089
extremely interesting and it may be a

1081
00:47:58,750 --> 00:47:54,950
possible connection between the two

1082
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:58,760
devices because the Nazi bill if you if

1083
00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:00,559
you look carefully at the research of

1084
00:48:05,859 --> 00:48:03,380
yegorovich offski was housed in a

1085
00:48:09,010 --> 00:48:05,869
chamber lined with ceramic bricks over

1086
00:48:11,230 --> 00:48:09,020
which had to be placed rubber mats so in

1087
00:48:13,930 --> 00:48:11,240
other words we're dealing in both cases

1088
00:48:17,170 --> 00:48:13,940
with an object that gave off extremely

1089
00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:17,180
powerful radiation and required unusual

1090
00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:20,750
shielding arrangements so that is the

1091
00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:24,920
one post 1951 connection that has a

1092
00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:27,470
number of data points that are

1093
00:48:31,779 --> 00:48:29,960
suggestive of the Nazi bell that may be

1094
00:48:33,490 --> 00:48:31,789
some sort of connection but other than

1095
00:48:37,569 --> 00:48:33,500
that we don't know where it went

1096
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:37,579
am i certain that whoever it was that

1097
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,680
had control of the project continued to

1098
00:48:44,410 --> 00:48:42,079
research it absolutely what would they

1099
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,420
have been able to achieve in the decades

1100
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,160
since the end of the war with enough

1101
00:48:52,089 --> 00:48:48,880
money and manpower well I think it is

1102
00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:52,099
reasonable to conclude that they may

1103
00:48:56,769 --> 00:48:54,260
have on that basis come up with a

1104
00:48:59,650 --> 00:48:56,779
workable genuine field propulsion

1105
00:49:00,910 --> 00:48:59,660
capability absolutely and you bring up a

1106
00:49:03,099 --> 00:49:00,920
good point we've jumped ahead to

1107
00:49:06,490 --> 00:49:03,109
Kecksburg which is in the early 60s

1108
00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:06,500
however in roswell and the reich which i

1109
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:08,750
I just find endlessly fascinating a

1110
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:13,250
fabulous book you a really good job of

1111
00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:17,089
looking at the Roswell incident and kind

1112
00:49:23,470 --> 00:49:18,680
of separating the wheat from the chaff

1113
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:23,480
in terms of why the secrecy why the the

1114
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:26,569
press release announcing the capture of

1115
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:30,049
a flying disc and then you know the the

1116
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:34,160
exact opposite disclaimer all was just a

1117
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:37,520
you know you make a case that perhaps

1118
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:40,650
what was discovered was very terrestrial

1119
00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:43,190
technology that in your in your

1120
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:45,720
interpretation and in your research

1121
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:48,270
indicates could have been a german

1122
00:49:52,970 --> 00:49:50,460
technology let's talk about Roswell

1123
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:52,980
briefly and and in your thinking about

1124
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:56,160
that because I I'm telling our listeners

1125
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:58,410
if you're interested in this subject at

1126
00:50:00,980 --> 00:49:58,800
all

1127
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:00,990
you've got to read this book it is it'll

1128
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,210
blow your mind before Joseph blow some

1129
00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:05,280
minds we have about a minute for this

1130
00:50:12,020 --> 00:50:07,230
segment then we'll continue the answer

1131
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:12,030
in the next one go ahead Clark well it's

1132
00:50:15,050 --> 00:50:13,290
interesting you bring that book up

1133
00:50:19,070 --> 00:50:15,060
because you know to me it's the book

1134
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:19,080
ufology loves to hate or or to be more

1135
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:25,650
accurate loves to ignore you're right I

1136
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:29,490
subject the Roswell story to and and its

1137
00:50:36,290 --> 00:50:32,730
major researchers to a very what I think

1138
00:50:39,590 --> 00:50:36,300
is thorough overview and analysis of

1139
00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:39,600
what I think may have happened so let me

1140
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:42,870
preface my my response by saying that

1141
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:45,540
that my approach to Roswell is premised

1142
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:49,050
on the assumption that the Nazis

1143
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:53,250
survived World War two as a powerful

1144
00:51:00,170 --> 00:50:56,690
enough organization with enough

1145
00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:00,180
financing that they can continue to

1146
00:51:05,180 --> 00:51:02,270
develop some of these projects

1147
00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:05,190
independently after the war in in their

1148
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:06,840
host countries in South America

1149
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:09,870
particularly Argentina so that's my

1150
00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:11,730
premise and we'll get into Roswell

1151
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:14,190
itself on the basis of that premise I

1152
00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:16,650
think probably in more detail after our

1153
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:17,160
break

1154
00:51:21,230 --> 00:51:19,710
good timing of course those of you who

1155
00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:21,240
believe that Roswell involved a

1156
00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:22,950
spaceship well perhaps you're going to

1157
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:25,470
disagree with us we have Joseph Ferrell

1158
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:27,330
joining us this week with gene and Chris

1159
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:30,190
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1197
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,329
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1198
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the R word again the roswell case and

1199
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:17,540
could it have possibly been some kind of

1200
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:19,520
aircraft test aircraft developed by

1201
00:54:23,950 --> 00:54:22,010
those Nazi scientists with Gene and

1202
00:54:26,170 --> 00:54:23,960
Chris we have Joseph Ferrell to explain

1203
00:54:28,270 --> 00:54:26,180
it all go ahead please if you look at

1204
00:54:32,049 --> 00:54:28,280
Roswell carefully and I'm gonna try and

1205
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:32,059
compact a 500 Plus page book into a few

1206
00:54:38,799 --> 00:54:35,599
into a few minutes if you look at the

1207
00:54:42,220 --> 00:54:38,809
Roswell case carefully and base your

1208
00:54:46,059 --> 00:54:42,230
analysis on the premise that Nazism

1209
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:46,069
survived the war there is a key document

1210
00:54:52,569 --> 00:54:49,910
that is cited by the Roswell Pro

1211
00:54:55,450 --> 00:54:52,579
extra-terrestrial hypothesis researchers

1212
00:54:57,849 --> 00:54:55,460
it's called the Shogun intelligence

1213
00:55:01,120 --> 00:54:57,859
collection memorandum this was a

1214
00:55:02,829 --> 00:55:01,130
memorandum drawn up by the chief of air

1215
00:55:04,589 --> 00:55:02,839
force intelligence at the time I

1216
00:55:07,059 --> 00:55:04,599
followed by the name of general Shogun

1217
00:55:10,270 --> 00:55:07,069
now the interesting thing about this

1218
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:10,280
document is it comes in two versions it

1219
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:13,970
comes in a hoaxed version which clearly

1220
00:55:20,170 --> 00:55:16,970
has additions favoring the

1221
00:55:22,839 --> 00:55:20,180
extra-terrestrial hypothesis and then it

1222
00:55:26,049 --> 00:55:22,849
comes in an authentic version where no

1223
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:26,059
mention is made of extraterrestrials or

1224
00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:28,010
off-planet origins for this technology

1225
00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:31,720
but where there is a clear reference to

1226
00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:34,430
technologies developed in Nazi Germany

1227
00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:37,640
all right and that that reference to

1228
00:55:43,569 --> 00:55:39,640
technologies developed in Nazi Germany

1229
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:43,579
exists in both versions of the document

1230
00:55:48,970 --> 00:55:46,010
now I'm pointing this document out

1231
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:48,980
because it's a signal indicator of what

1232
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:52,250
may have really panicked the American

1233
00:55:57,390 --> 00:55:55,520
military after their recovery of

1234
00:56:01,780 --> 00:55:57,400
whatever it was that crashed at Roswell

1235
00:56:04,329 --> 00:56:01,790
less just for the sake of argument forgo

1236
00:56:06,130 --> 00:56:04,339
the extra-terrestrial hypothesis for a

1237
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:06,140
moment and as some

1238
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:09,920
that what Jesse Marcel came on to in

1239
00:56:16,359 --> 00:56:12,680
that debris field and once it was

1240
00:56:19,390 --> 00:56:16,369
brought back to Roswell Army US Army Air

1241
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:19,400
Field in Roswell and they had enough

1242
00:56:24,279 --> 00:56:22,130
chance to look at it and then they bring

1243
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:24,289
in general Nathan twining the air

1244
00:56:28,269 --> 00:56:26,510
materials command is definitely in the

1245
00:56:31,089 --> 00:56:28,279
area at the time and he looks at this

1246
00:56:37,059 --> 00:56:31,099
stuff and he's thinking oh my god

1247
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:37,069
if the US military in July of 1947 finds

1248
00:56:42,279 --> 00:56:41,119
something Nazi has crashed in the New

1249
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:42,289
Mexico desert

1250
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:45,680
are they going to hit the panic button

1251
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:48,799
are they going to attempt to cover it up

1252
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:52,609
you betcha and the reason is simple this

1253
00:56:59,950 --> 00:56:56,450
is the enemy that supposedly we defeated

1254
00:57:02,710 --> 00:56:59,960
two years ago what in the name of God

1255
00:57:06,460 --> 00:57:02,720
are they doing flying in our airspace

1256
00:57:10,059 --> 00:57:06,470
over art are sensitive defensive

1257
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:10,069
installations two years after the end of

1258
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:12,920
the war the political conclusion that

1259
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:15,910
they would have come to if this is

1260
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:18,799
accepted for the sake of argument is oh

1261
00:57:25,660 --> 00:57:21,680
my god they're out there somewhere and

1262
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:25,670
they're continuing to develop this stuff

1263
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:28,609
and it's very interesting when you read

1264
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:31,359
the Shogun intelligence collection

1265
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:34,809
memorandum even in its extraterrestrial

1266
00:57:41,499 --> 00:57:38,930
host version Shogun is extremely

1267
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:41,509
concerned to find out where the heck are

1268
00:57:46,660 --> 00:57:43,730
the Horton brothers another is where are

1269
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:46,670
these German engineers that develop the

1270
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:50,450
flying wing now that statement even in

1271
00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:52,970
the version that is going on and on

1272
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:55,160
about extraterrestrials is a dead

1273
00:58:00,370 --> 00:57:58,130
giveaway that this crash has nothing to

1274
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,380
do with extraterrestrials why would you

1275
00:58:04,539 --> 00:58:02,240
need a bunch of German engineers if you

1276
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:04,549
came across something extraterrestrial I

1277
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:07,250
just wonder Joseph to interject here is

1278
00:58:14,769 --> 00:58:11,210
if et might have been in some cases a

1279
00:58:17,380 --> 00:58:14,779
convenient excuse you know because et

1280
00:58:19,329 --> 00:58:17,390
sounds fantastic and incredible but it

1281
00:58:19,810 --> 00:58:19,339
misdirects us from what might be a real

1282
00:58:22,060 --> 00:58:19,820
source

1283
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:22,070
assuming these scientists were

1284
00:58:27,310 --> 00:58:24,710
responsible assuming precisely that is

1285
00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:27,320
exactly the view that I take in in

1286
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:29,990
Rosalind the Reich because if you look

1287
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:34,490
at the US Army Air Forces response what

1288
00:58:39,250 --> 00:58:37,130
they do is they set up at what I call

1289
00:58:43,570 --> 00:58:39,260
the Roswell dialectic they set up

1290
00:58:46,810 --> 00:58:43,580
something that forces you or compels you

1291
00:58:48,990 --> 00:58:46,820
to examine the event from one of two

1292
00:58:51,790 --> 00:58:49,000
points of view that it's either

1293
00:58:54,430 --> 00:58:51,800
extraterrestrial or something so mundane

1294
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,440
that it's almost ridiculous to spend

1295
00:58:58,780 --> 00:58:56,480
time with namely that they capture of

1296
00:59:00,790 --> 00:58:58,790
some sort of balloon alright what you

1297
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:00,800
are prevented from doing in that

1298
00:59:06,490 --> 00:59:03,710
dialectical set up is looking at the

1299
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:06,500
possibility that this represents an

1300
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:08,960
extraordinary human technology number

1301
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:11,570
one and number two an extraordinary

1302
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:15,440
human technology that is not under

1303
00:59:23,170 --> 00:59:20,240
post-war American or Soviet control so

1304
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:23,180
the big news as far as I'm concerned

1305
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:25,010
about Roswell simply isn't the

1306
00:59:30,730 --> 00:59:27,770
technology the big news is political

1307
00:59:34,210 --> 00:59:30,740
because if you find something Nazi has

1308
00:59:37,150 --> 00:59:34,220
crashed in the New Mexico desert in 1947

1309
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:37,160
that's a huge political statement you

1310
00:59:42,610 --> 00:59:40,010
cannot afford to admit the possibility

1311
00:59:44,890 --> 00:59:42,620
that you may be dealing with an enemy

1312
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:44,900
that has gone deeply underground after

1313
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:47,870
the war that has bases of operation that

1314
00:59:53,740 --> 00:59:50,750
you suspect may exist but you don't know

1315
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:53,750
exactly where on top of all of that

1316
01:00:00,100 --> 00:59:56,690
you're dealing therefore with an enemy

1317
01:00:03,850 --> 01:00:00,110
that has vast resources of funding and

1318
01:00:05,890 --> 01:00:03,860
by the nature of the case has access to

1319
01:00:09,150 --> 01:00:05,900
that funding which can only imply

1320
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:09,160
collusion of some of your own financial

1321
01:00:14,260 --> 01:00:11,330
institutions so in other words the

1322
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,270
political implications are huge well the

1323
01:00:17,770 --> 01:00:15,920
thing is here the requestion that you

1324
01:00:19,660 --> 01:00:17,780
raise here based on what you say would

1325
01:00:22,180 --> 01:00:19,670
that mean that sources within the

1326
01:00:25,150 --> 01:00:22,190
military-industrial complex so called

1327
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:25,160
would be using money to finance this

1328
01:00:31,210 --> 01:00:28,370
third party no it's the banks that are

1329
01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:31,220
funding it the international bankers

1330
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:33,180
exactly these are the

1331
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:36,180
questions and I think there is a little

1332
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:38,130
bit of both because one of the things

1333
01:00:45,380 --> 01:00:42,049
that you run into if you look at the

1334
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:45,390
magic 12 documents some of the magic 12

1335
01:00:50,690 --> 01:00:47,369
documents suggests that after the

1336
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:50,700
Roswell crash the US Army Air Force

1337
01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:52,529
brought in some of these German

1338
01:00:56,029 --> 01:00:54,420
scientists to look at this stuff and

1339
01:00:58,579 --> 01:00:56,039
tell them what it was what they thought

1340
01:01:02,660 --> 01:00:58,589
was now why would you do that if you

1341
01:01:04,670 --> 01:01:02,670
suspect it let's reason this through if

1342
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:04,680
you're the US Army Air Force and you

1343
01:01:10,329 --> 01:01:06,569
suspect that you've got something

1344
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:10,339
genuinely extraterrestrial on your hands

1345
01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:14,730
do you bring in your former enemies to

1346
01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:17,849
look at it and render an opinion my

1347
01:01:22,930 --> 01:01:20,960
guess would be no simply on you know the

1348
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:22,940
security interests of

1349
01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:25,170
compartmentalization you keep this a

1350
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:28,680
secret and you keep it to yourselves and

1351
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:30,569
to the most trustworthy individuals you

1352
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:32,490
don't bring it very far out or Kirk

1353
01:01:37,279 --> 01:01:34,170
Davis and say hey look at this cool

1354
01:01:39,980 --> 01:01:37,289
stuff what do you think it is because as

1355
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:39,990
I also point out in Roswell in the Reich

1356
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:42,930
the US Army counterintelligence had

1357
01:01:47,059 --> 01:01:45,089
reasons serious reason to believe that

1358
01:01:49,099 --> 01:01:47,069
these Nazi scientists were still in

1359
01:01:51,799 --> 01:01:49,109
communication with other Nazis and they

1360
01:01:53,630 --> 01:01:51,809
didn't know where how so in other words

1361
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:53,640
the whole story that we've been given

1362
01:01:57,559 --> 01:01:54,480
reeks

1363
01:02:00,319 --> 01:01:57,569
all right now who are these Nazis in bed

1364
01:02:02,990 --> 01:02:00,329
with well I point out in another of my

1365
01:02:05,329 --> 01:02:03,000
books called babylons banksters that if

1366
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:05,339
you look at the composition of the early

1367
01:02:11,029 --> 01:02:08,250
post-war Bilderberg meetings let's

1368
01:02:14,569 --> 01:02:11,039
recall a dynamic about these meeting on

1369
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:14,579
the western or anglo-american financial

1370
01:02:18,349 --> 01:02:16,890
elite side who do you have setting these

1371
01:02:20,839 --> 01:02:18,359
meetings up well you have the

1372
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involvement of the Rothschilds you have

1373
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:22,799
Lawrence and David Rockefeller helping

1374
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:25,440
set this up but who do you have on the

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European side well you've got Prince

1376
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Bernhard who's Prince Bernhard he's a

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minor German nobleman but he is a senior

1378
01:02:42,620 --> 01:02:39,230
manager in IG Farben he's an SS officer

1379
01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:42,630
all right so in other words he is a

1380
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representative if you will of all of

1381
01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:47,130
this

1382
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:50,700
the post-war Nazi loot that needs to be

1383
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:53,010
laundered who's one of the frequent

1384
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:55,500
guests at these early Bilderberg

1385
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meetings a fellow by the name of dr.

1386
01:03:02,930 --> 01:02:59,280
Hermann Yosef ops

1387
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:02,940
who's he well he just happens to be the

1388
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CEO of deutsche bank all right

1389
01:03:11,810 --> 01:03:08,700
during the war dr. ops was head of the

1390
01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:11,820
handling bank in Berlin that handled all

1391
01:03:17,060 --> 01:03:14,460
of the rice government accounts in other

1392
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:17,070
words this was the guy that signs the

1393
01:03:21,590 --> 01:03:18,960
paycheck for ah Dolph Hitler as

1394
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:21,600
Chancellor of the right okay so in other

1395
01:03:25,820 --> 01:03:23,760
words if you look at the dynamic of the

1396
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:25,830
Bilderberg meetings you've got the Nazis

1397
01:03:31,820 --> 01:03:28,410
sitting on this vast pile of post-war

1398
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loot they need to be able to launder

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that loot and have access to it I'll

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tell you what we have to get a little

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we're back we collected a couple of

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dollars I think on that session Joseph

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Ferrell and we're having a fascinating

1507
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this session here looking into the

1508
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so-called international bankers who

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01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:24,720
might have somehow financed the Nazi

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01:08:28,460 --> 01:08:26,819
science but I have to ask you this

1511
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:28,470
question here again which I'm still a

1512
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:31,020
little bit dim on where did this go

1513
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:33,000
after the 50s and we can go into more

1514
01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:35,850
connections between UFO sightings and

1515
01:08:41,329 --> 01:08:39,390
possible earth-based saucers but what's

1516
01:08:43,309 --> 01:08:41,339
happening in two thousand twelve is any

1517
01:08:46,190 --> 01:08:43,319
of this gone on or is it way way

1518
01:08:50,599 --> 01:08:46,200
underground what's happened I think it's

1519
01:08:54,289 --> 01:08:50,609
both I think definitely you have to look

1520
01:08:58,610 --> 01:08:54,299
at the creation of this post-war

1521
01:09:01,460 --> 01:08:58,620
blacks projects entity in the American

1522
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:01,470
military industrial complex in a

1523
01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:04,020
two-fold fashion because what you're

1524
01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:06,089
dealing with the scientific capabilities

1525
01:09:11,059 --> 01:09:08,279
that you're dealing with would require

1526
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:11,069
an enormous amount of funding and I

1527
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:13,020
think therefore that this funding

1528
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:17,759
mechanism itself is deeply black and it

1529
01:09:25,539 --> 01:09:20,640
was set up in my opinion after World War

1530
01:09:28,610 --> 01:09:25,549
two with the collusion of major American

1531
01:09:31,130 --> 01:09:28,620
financial institutions with certain key

1532
01:09:33,860 --> 01:09:31,140
individuals in the government in in the

1533
01:09:37,820 --> 01:09:33,870
intelligence and military bureaucracies

1534
01:09:41,059 --> 01:09:37,830
on the one hand and on the other with

1535
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:41,069
the knowledge and participation of the

1536
01:09:46,210 --> 01:09:44,460
former axis power elites and and I say

1537
01:09:49,130 --> 01:09:46,220
that because there's a Japanese

1538
01:09:51,050 --> 01:09:49,140
component to this story it's very very

1539
01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:51,060
significant as well so you have

1540
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:53,490
basically gene I think an agreement I

1541
01:09:58,460 --> 01:09:55,650
did what I call I follow the date on to

1542
01:10:02,060 --> 01:09:58,470
the post-war date on between the

1543
01:10:03,770 --> 01:10:02,070
surviving elites of the Axis powers with

1544
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:03,780
access to all this

1545
01:10:10,010 --> 01:10:06,810
Lieut and the financial and military

1546
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:10,020
elite of the post-war West particularly

1547
01:10:15,710 --> 01:10:13,440
the United States the date on consists

1548
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:15,720
of this and I'll be very brief and blunt

1549
01:10:22,190 --> 01:10:17,850
about what I think happened they moved

1550
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:22,200
all of this liquid cash and and then

1551
01:10:28,490 --> 01:10:25,500
hard assets like bullion precious gems

1552
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:28,500
and so on and so forth into the Western

1553
01:10:35,980 --> 01:10:32,640
banks this became in effect a secret

1554
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:35,990
reserve against which the banks

1555
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:39,120
participating in the scheme could vastly

1556
01:10:45,580 --> 01:10:42,420
expand their ledger credit entry making

1557
01:10:48,530 --> 01:10:45,590
abilities so number one this movement of

1558
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:48,540
axis loot in the post-war period into

1559
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:52,260
the major Western banks in part accounts

1560
01:10:57,500 --> 01:10:55,140
for the post-war expansion of credit in

1561
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:57,510
the post-war boom but the second thing

1562
01:11:03,080 --> 01:10:59,760
we have to remember and I'm lettin a

1563
01:11:05,860 --> 01:11:03,090
huge clue out here for folks is that

1564
01:11:09,740 --> 01:11:05,870
when you say that you have a secret

1565
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:09,750
reserve this would therefore allow those

1566
01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:13,980
banks to read hypothec eight ever and

1567
01:11:21,740 --> 01:11:17,540
over and over again and create a huge

1568
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:21,750
bubble of leverage against that reserve

1569
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:23,970
now the reason I'm putting it that way

1570
01:11:30,350 --> 01:11:27,630
is isn't it very very interesting that

1571
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:30,360
the one nation within the world with

1572
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:32,730
allegedly the second largest gold

1573
01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:36,570
reserves right now is Germany and what's

1574
01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:39,960
Germany calling for it wants a full

1575
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:43,620
audit of all of its gold in the US

1576
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:47,520
Federal Reserve System and we are

1577
01:11:53,210 --> 01:11:50,610
squirming so I think you're also looking

1578
01:11:55,550 --> 01:11:53,220
if you if you look at my scenario of

1579
01:11:58,970 --> 01:11:55,560
this post-war financial development and

1580
01:12:02,240 --> 01:11:58,980
carry it down to today I think what

1581
01:12:05,570 --> 01:12:02,250
you're looking now is at the breakdown

1582
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:05,580
of that post-war financial system and

1583
01:12:10,670 --> 01:12:08,190
post-war they talked well does think

1584
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:10,680
economic crisis is affecting the entire

1585
01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:13,290
world especially USA banks the largest

1586
01:12:17,060 --> 01:12:15,630
banks is that part of it in any way I

1587
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,070
mean we learned to think

1588
01:12:21,710 --> 01:12:19,440
is mortgage-backed securities and all

1589
01:12:23,380 --> 01:12:21,720
this other nonsense yes I think it is

1590
01:12:26,810 --> 01:12:23,390
part of it and I think mortgage-backed

1591
01:12:27,890 --> 01:12:26,820
securities aren't part of this the you

1592
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,900
know the whole creation of the

1593
01:12:32,330 --> 01:12:30,000
derivatives bubble but what I'm

1594
01:12:35,630 --> 01:12:32,340
suggesting to you what I'm attempting to

1595
01:12:38,060 --> 01:12:35,640
suggest to you is that this whole system

1596
01:12:40,190 --> 01:12:38,070
this whole creation of derivatives

1597
01:12:43,550 --> 01:12:40,200
credit default swaps mortgage bubbles

1598
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:43,560
and so on and so forth is in turn based

1599
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:46,800
upon this hidden system of Finance and

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:50,880
the rehypothecation of the secret hard

1601
01:12:58,130 --> 01:12:53,610
reserves over and over and over again

1602
01:13:00,650 --> 01:12:58,140
the reason why this was done is if you

1603
01:13:02,750 --> 01:13:00,660
look at the vast amount of money that

1604
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:02,760
we're talking about we're talking about

1605
01:13:08,180 --> 01:13:05,490
a system of finance that was set in

1606
01:13:12,620 --> 01:13:08,190
place after World War two for the

1607
01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:12,630
precise purpose of number one waging a

1608
01:13:18,140 --> 01:13:16,140
covert war against the communist bloc to

1609
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:18,150
eventually roll it back and ultimately

1610
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:20,730
defeat it number one and number two with

1611
01:13:26,090 --> 01:13:23,850
such vast funds available and completely

1612
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,100
off the books you are able to finance

1613
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:29,360
hugely expensive technological black

1614
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:33,120
projects that means that this system of

1615
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:37,050
finance is tied in exira Blee to the

1616
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:40,290
creation of a super sophisticated war

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01:13:45,050 --> 01:13:42,330
machine you can't get rid of the one

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without getting rid of the other there

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in every time what they might have

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01:13:52,810 --> 01:13:50,250
accomplished in that time as anybody's

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:52,820
guess but to connect a few dots here

1622
01:13:57,380 --> 01:13:55,530
let's look at the case of gary mckinnon

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01:13:59,930 --> 01:13:57,390
in the united kingdom he hacks into

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01:14:03,230 --> 01:13:59,940
american computers and he discovers or

1625
01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:03,240
so he claims the existence of an entire

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01:14:07,070 --> 01:14:05,340
secret space program with secret

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01:14:09,740 --> 01:14:07,080
capabilities that none of us know about

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01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:09,750
right this idea of a secret space

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01:14:15,650 --> 01:14:12,360
program goes all the way back to Nazi

1630
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:15,660
Germany why very simply the reason is

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01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:19,290
this you have with the V choose the V

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01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:21,690
ones all of their ballistic missile

1633
01:14:26,930 --> 01:14:24,480
programs you have the public space

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01:14:28,820 --> 01:14:26,940
program but with things like the Horton

1635
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:28,830
brothers they're flying wings we haven't

1636
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:31,290
even talked about some of the Nazi ideas

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01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:34,710
for jet turbine based flying saucers and

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01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:36,510
more importantly with with the Bell

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:39,540
project you have this interest in very

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01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:42,330
very avant-garde notions of engineering

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01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,270
in physics that at the deepest level is

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:47,760
the secret space program so this

1643
01:14:56,060 --> 01:14:51,570
twin-track program idea in other words

1644
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:56,070
dates from and to Nazi Germany now when

1645
01:15:00,380 --> 01:14:58,410
you talk of secret space program when I

1646
01:15:02,450 --> 01:15:00,390
get back to the UFO connection with this

1647
01:15:05,090 --> 01:15:02,460
in a moment how far are we talking about

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01:15:07,220 --> 01:15:05,100
are we talking about another program

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01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:07,230
that's landed people on the moon on Mars

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or something how far how extensive Mike

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this program being let me just tell you

1652
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,920
before the answer we're going to have to

1653
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:15,360
do the break in a little over a minute

1654
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:17,280
so we can start here and continue next

1655
01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:20,130
section but how far basically I think

1656
01:15:25,940 --> 01:15:23,580
that you have to at least entertain the

1657
01:15:30,530 --> 01:15:25,950
possibility Jean that you're looking at

1658
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:30,540
a program that may have the capability

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01:15:38,740 --> 01:15:34,290
of landing and sustaining a human

1660
01:15:42,170 --> 01:15:38,750
presence on the moon and possibly on

1661
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:42,180
nearby celestial neighbors like Mars I

1662
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:45,120
think you have to acknowledge at least

1663
01:15:50,810 --> 01:15:48,080
the possibility and the reason again is

1664
01:15:54,260 --> 01:15:50,820
you're dealing with the technology that

1665
01:15:55,940 --> 01:15:54,270
dates at least from World War two I mean

1666
01:15:57,260 --> 01:15:55,950
if we really want to press the case we

1667
01:15:59,960 --> 01:15:57,270
can go back to some of the strange

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01:16:01,700 --> 01:15:59,970
things Tesla was saying at the turn of

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01:16:03,050 --> 01:16:01,710
the last century so in other words we

1670
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:03,060
could be dealing with something that's

1671
01:16:09,290 --> 01:16:06,480
taken an entire century to covertly

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01:16:12,410 --> 01:16:09,300
develop and given the vast amounts of

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money sloshing around out there that are

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both inside and outside the global

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system of public finance then we have to

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I think at least acknowledge the

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01:16:23,810 --> 01:16:21,690
possibility that that capability might

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exist we'll have to see how far it goes

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in our next segment with Joseph Ferrell

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this is ugly

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you're listening to the podcast the gold

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standard of Carnival radio with gene and

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01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:08,890
Chris you're in the power cast Joseph

1790
01:21:13,470 --> 01:21:10,870
Ferrell making his first visit on the

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01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:13,480
show it will not be his last lots of

1792
01:21:17,730 --> 01:21:15,970
fascinating discussion here Joseph so

1793
01:21:20,940 --> 01:21:17,740
let me just ask you a few few radical

1794
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:20,950
questions okay so we have this group of

1795
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:23,170
scientists possibly formerly working

1796
01:21:28,290 --> 01:21:24,960
with Nazi Germany we have unlimited

1797
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:28,300
sources of money from the international

1798
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,310
bankers or banksters as we sometimes

1799
01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:33,280
call them we have the potential that

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01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:36,040
they've continued a secret or covert

1801
01:21:40,530 --> 01:21:38,950
space program even though publicly the

1802
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:40,540
u.s. space program has gone nowhere

1803
01:21:44,490 --> 01:21:42,850
since we landed on the moon there's a

1804
01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:44,500
secret space program there may be some

1805
01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:47,560
date on amongst various countries even

1806
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:49,630
considering what's going on behind the

1807
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:52,480
scenes but now to get to the real meat

1808
01:21:55,980 --> 01:21:54,310
and potatoes here and something I think

1809
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:55,990
some of our skeptical listeners are

1810
01:22:00,120 --> 01:21:58,000
going to ask how do we prove there's a

1811
01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:00,130
secret space program what evidence is

1812
01:22:02,490 --> 01:22:01,270
there for it

1813
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:02,500
well I think you have to take a

1814
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:05,530
two-track approach to gain the first to

1815
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:08,800
be finances the way or the method I'm

1816
01:22:12,540 --> 01:22:10,570
writing a book right now about this very

1817
01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:12,550
topic so I'm kind of giving away a

1818
01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:14,590
business well it'll sell some books

1819
01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:18,790
that's all but the first way is to look

1820
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:21,670
at the system of Finance itself and

1821
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:24,610
really determine why is it there the

1822
01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:27,070
first method would be to look at this

1823
01:22:31,470 --> 01:22:29,320
system of Finance and determine number

1824
01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:31,480
one is there a hidden system of Finance

1825
01:22:38,010 --> 01:22:35,500
and if so is the system of finance large

1826
01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:38,020
amount is the amount of money apparently

1827
01:22:43,620 --> 01:22:40,750
involved in large enough to support a

1828
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:43,630
vast covert technological development

1829
01:22:48,090 --> 01:22:45,850
all right now I think as a matter of

1830
01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:48,100
fact that you can argue that case in

1831
01:22:52,170 --> 01:22:50,350
fact no less than than a former

1832
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:52,180
assistant secretary of Housing and Urban

1833
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:52,930
Development

1834
01:22:57,630 --> 01:22:54,850
Catherine Austin Fitz has been saying

1835
01:23:00,750 --> 01:22:57,640
the same thing that there does exist

1836
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:00,760
this huge system of finance and that it

1837
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:03,010
may have been for the purpose of

1838
01:23:07,890 --> 01:23:05,290
something vice projects the second thing

1839
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:07,900
you have to work at it I think is is

1840
01:23:14,190 --> 01:23:10,560
there sufficient evidence to suggest a

1841
01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:14,200
two-fold scientific development number

1842
01:23:20,729 --> 01:23:17,100
one is there are evidence of an

1843
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:20,739
alternative or suppressed physics and

1844
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:22,690
number two is there evidence of the

1845
01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:25,330
development of a technology based on

1846
01:23:31,170 --> 01:23:28,870
that alternative physics model and I

1847
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:31,180
think you have to come away and answer

1848
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:33,280
it a bad question that there definitely

1849
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:36,610
is let's take an example and this will

1850
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:38,650
probably be familiar to some of your

1851
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:40,480
listeners the the former head of the

1852
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:43,450
Lockheed skunkworks been rich after his

1853
01:23:48,930 --> 01:23:46,570
retirement is reported as saying some

1854
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:48,940
very strange things number one would be

1855
01:23:55,380 --> 01:23:51,930
we found an error in the equations and

1856
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:55,390
now we have the technology and this is

1857
01:23:59,370 --> 01:23:57,040
this really blew me away when I heard it

1858
01:24:07,680 --> 01:23:59,380
now we have the technology back to the

1859
01:24:09,870 --> 01:24:07,690
stars I'll take eighty back and then you

1860
01:24:12,540 --> 01:24:09,880
add to this the other statements that

1861
01:24:13,890 --> 01:24:12,550
rich made that you know we have stuff

1862
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:13,900
out the desert that would that would

1863
01:24:18,810 --> 01:24:16,450
make George Lucas blush you know green

1864
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:18,820
with envy and and so on and so forth now

1865
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:21,370
I think that if you look at the entire

1866
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:24,610
history of development from physics and

1867
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,710
I attempt to do this to some extent in

1868
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:28,960
the Nazi books particularly in the SS

1869
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:30,970
Brotherhood of the Bell you have to look

1870
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:33,850
at people like the British physicist ET

1871
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:36,930
Whittaker and a 1903 paper that he wrote

1872
01:24:41,850 --> 01:24:39,760
very technical paper I should act called

1873
01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:41,860
on the partial differential equations of

1874
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:43,630
mathematical physics you know you read

1875
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:46,210
this thing it's 50 pages of partial

1876
01:24:52,050 --> 01:24:48,880
differential equations but the bottom

1877
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:52,060
line is is that you come up with papers

1878
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:54,489
like this that are pre relativistic that

1879
01:24:59,040 --> 01:24:56,890
are very very different in terms of the

1880
01:25:01,740 --> 01:24:59,050
type of physics that they envision now

1881
01:25:04,970 --> 01:25:01,750
the reason I mentioned Whittaker is that

1882
01:25:08,010 --> 01:25:04,980
his paper was published in Germany in

1883
01:25:10,350 --> 01:25:08,020
mathematician Valen so in other words

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the Germans when the Nazis come to power

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they're sitting on top of all of these

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papers that were published prior to two

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the assumption of power inside of

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Germany so in other words the Nazis are

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looking at this and they are possibly

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seeing the potential for the development

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of a very different paradigm or at least

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a very different technology based on

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some of these concepts and some of these

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papers

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thanks me to a question that we have on

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from gobsmacked you want one of our

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forum posters and yes you know you have

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01:25:44,729 --> 01:25:42,790
stated that physics has been a pastime

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01:25:47,550 --> 01:25:44,739
of yours and you don't claim any

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01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:47,560
qualifications there but you know you're

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01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:49,360
talking about a 50 page paper of

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differential equations and he goes on to

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01:25:56,970 --> 01:25:54,969
ask can you tell us what level did used

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01:25:59,399 --> 01:25:56,980
to what level did you study physics in

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01:26:03,660 --> 01:25:59,409
school have you been keeping up with

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01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:03,670
changes in physics since then and give

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01:26:09,780 --> 01:26:06,730
us an idea of your level of expertise in

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01:26:13,050 --> 01:26:09,790
this particular realm well I don't claim

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:13,060
an expertise I read certain physics

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01:26:18,959 --> 01:26:15,489
papers I try to stay abreast of certain

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01:26:21,930 --> 01:26:18,969
developments as for my level when I was

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01:26:25,169 --> 01:26:21,940
in junior high school I grew up in South

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Dakota and at the time I can't speak for

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their school system now but at the time

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they had accelerated programs in various

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disciplines so that if you showed talent

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or if you showed that you were bored for

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that in some of the courses at your

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level they'd skip you a couple of grades

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and put you in certain programs to

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accelerate you know your educational

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experience so when I was began the 7th

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grade I was putting in one of these

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accelerated mathematics programs and I

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was being given courses that normally

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would have been taught to grades later

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01:27:02,280 --> 01:26:59,949
than that what I was given and that

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continued all the way through my high

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school period and I as far as physics

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goes you know in seventh grade I became

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01:27:13,410 --> 01:27:10,330
fascinated with physics when I read a

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book by Albert Einstein and Leopold in

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felt that was called the evolution of

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physics it's a little paperback kind of

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popular popular presentations of the

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development of physics from the

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standpoint of Einstein and his

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development of relativity theory so you

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know I

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I became interested in it I can't claim

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any I can't claim any school education

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01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:38,240
in it it's just something I read about

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01:27:44,050 --> 01:27:41,030
on my own you know I've got a whole

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bookshelf here when I in my office

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01:27:48,580 --> 01:27:46,520
library actually two bookshelves of math

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and physics textbooks just things I like

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to read about ok so let me ask you a

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question here that always occurs when

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you talk about the possibilities of

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secret weapons secret aircraft and

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01:28:02,470 --> 01:27:59,540
perhaps a secret space program whether

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01:28:06,370 --> 01:28:02,480
for example Roswell was a secret

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01:28:08,770 --> 01:28:06,380
aircraft that crashed right among all

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01:28:11,260 --> 01:28:08,780
those UFO sightings that we reported in

1955
01:28:15,550 --> 01:28:11,270
those early days including the craft

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01:28:17,170 --> 01:28:15,560
scene above Washington in 1952 do you

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01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:17,180
think all or at least some of the

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aircraft scene was due to secret Nazi

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01:28:28,660 --> 01:28:25,880
developments I think I think yeah excuse

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01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:28,670
me for cutting in but but I mean Kenneth

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01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:31,370
Arnold sighting of nine objects near

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01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:34,730
Mount Rainier are really reminiscent of

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some of the designs that the Horton

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Brothers were worth exactly

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01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:41,870
well we've sure turned that classic

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01:28:46,030 --> 01:28:43,370
sighting on his head

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you know I post it's interesting you

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01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:47,650
point that out Chris because I pose

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01:28:52,630 --> 01:28:50,210
Arnold's picture an SS Brotherhood of

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01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:52,640
the Bell and that give you a picture of

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01:28:56,890 --> 01:28:54,320
one of the Horten flying wings actually

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01:29:00,490 --> 01:28:56,900
in flight so that you can see the strong

1973
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:00,500
resemblance of what Arnold drew and what

1974
01:29:06,940 --> 01:29:02,930
the Horten is actually designed there

1975
01:29:12,610 --> 01:29:06,950
there the resemblance is stunning so do

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01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:12,620
I do I think that the 1952 UFO flap over

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Washington DC might have been something

1978
01:29:21,130 --> 01:29:19,190
from this Nazi project possibly but I

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01:29:24,850 --> 01:29:21,140
think the other thing we need to we need

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to be very very careful of for those who

1981
01:29:29,020 --> 01:29:27,470
who want to look at all of this is

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01:29:30,820 --> 01:29:29,030
making nothing but a human development

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01:29:34,930 --> 01:29:30,830
we have to look at the physics

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01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:34,940
signatures of what we're seeing are they

1985
01:29:39,340 --> 01:29:37,610
on the one hand sufficient to compel to

1986
01:29:41,290 --> 01:29:39,350
the conclusion that that these things

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01:29:42,460 --> 01:29:41,300
are extraterrestrial objects well in my

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01:29:45,940 --> 01:29:42,470
opinion in many case

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01:29:49,900 --> 01:29:45,950
says no they're not but on the other

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01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:49,910
hand in many cases they are beyond what

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01:29:57,070 --> 01:29:54,520
we could project reasonably as as

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01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:57,080
falling within human capability of the

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01:30:03,970 --> 01:29:59,360
day now I happen to think that it's

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01:30:07,810 --> 01:30:03,980
possible that the 1952 UFO flap may have

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at least in part have been from some

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human black project but I by no means

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think that you can explain all UFO

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sightings particularly those indicative

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of a technology I'll tell you but we'll

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with gene and Chris we are going on a

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journey to what earth-based UFOs et and

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you're talking here Joseph Ferrell about

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a physics signature evidence I guess as

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to whether an aircraft is something that

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we have could have developed or

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something that might be done elsewhere

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well I was saying before the break I by

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no means think that you can explain

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every single UFO sighting as the product

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of a human technology I think there's

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too many cases for example of me lessons

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under unidentified submarine objects

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that you know come flying in into the

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water and disappear or flying out of the

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water up into the sky to my mind that's

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the capability that exceeds possibly

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exceeds human capabilities even for

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these secret projects so I think we have

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to be careful I don't think that every

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UFO sighting is something human I

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attempt to examine things on a

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case-by-case basis Roswell the Reich is

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a 500 plus page book about that specific

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subject and what researchers have said

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and in my opinion I think have said

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erroneously about about that they've

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been but you know I certainly don't

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think that you can account for

2140
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everything that falls under the UFO

2141
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phenomenon as being an Aussie

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development or a human development know

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I just I've never believed that ghosts

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of one thing that's always puzzled me

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was Admiral Byrd's

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operation Highjump expedition down to

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Antarctica and of course over the years

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we've all heard stories of new Schwaben

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land and and possible German sort of

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infrastructure building underneath the

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ice caps of Antarctica what where do you

2152
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come down on that what do you think

2153
01:37:02,350 --> 01:36:59,810
about that whole scenario of an

2154
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:02,360
Antarctic German presence okay that's

2155
01:37:06,750 --> 01:37:04,880
that's when I get answered or asked a

2156
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:06,760
lot and and

2157
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:12,400
my response is always the same I have

2158
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:18,729
massive doubts about a Nazi Antarctic

2159
01:37:23,819 --> 01:37:22,719
UFO research or development base in

2160
01:37:26,489 --> 01:37:23,829
Antarctica

2161
01:37:30,029 --> 01:37:26,499
the reason being let's go back to the

2162
01:37:34,500 --> 01:37:30,039
Bell story for a moment if you look at

2163
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:34,510
the way this story unfolds

2164
01:37:40,919 --> 01:37:37,449
and on you know we we really have to

2165
01:37:43,500 --> 01:37:40,929
look at the details of the story one of

2166
01:37:45,989 --> 01:37:43,510
the details of the Bell device if you

2167
01:37:50,180 --> 01:37:45,999
examine the story is that it required an

2168
01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:50,190
enormous amount of direct current

2169
01:37:58,199 --> 01:37:55,119
electrical power to the extent that the

2170
01:38:01,859 --> 01:37:58,209
Nazis built an entire electrical power

2171
01:38:04,739 --> 01:38:01,869
plant within hundreds of yards of the

2172
01:38:08,069 --> 01:38:04,749
installation at which the Bell device

2173
01:38:11,339 --> 01:38:08,079
was tested all right so in other words

2174
01:38:14,009 --> 01:38:11,349
the idea that the prototype gateway

2175
01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:14,019
technology into this field propulsion

2176
01:38:19,379 --> 01:38:17,380
capability was continued after the war

2177
01:38:21,959 --> 01:38:19,389
in Antarctica would have required

2178
01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:21,969
enormous electrical power we would have

2179
01:38:28,379 --> 01:38:25,119
required installations of massive sized

2180
01:38:29,790 --> 01:38:28,389
in Antarctica now to imagine the the

2181
01:38:34,049 --> 01:38:29,800
German Navy

2182
01:38:37,290 --> 01:38:34,059
as being operationally capable of waging

2183
01:38:39,569 --> 01:38:37,300
not only a campaign against British and

2184
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:39,579
American shipping in the Atlantic but

2185
01:38:46,830 --> 01:38:43,840
also getting the German Navy to ship by

2186
01:38:49,379 --> 01:38:46,840
u-boat the components to produce that

2187
01:38:51,660 --> 01:38:49,389
kind of electrical power and to build

2188
01:38:55,140 --> 01:38:51,670
the installations in Antarctica that

2189
01:38:58,350 --> 01:38:55,150
this would have required is to be an

2190
01:39:00,449 --> 01:38:58,360
impossibility so that's not to say I

2191
01:39:03,299 --> 01:39:00,459
don't think the Nazis had some sort of

2192
01:39:07,500 --> 01:39:03,309
installation in Antarctica but it is

2193
01:39:09,270 --> 01:39:07,510
nothing even remotely close to what what

2194
01:39:11,699 --> 01:39:09,280
it would take to come up with a

2195
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:11,709
technology yeah the other part of the

2196
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:14,159
story we need to remember here Chris is

2197
01:39:20,490 --> 01:39:18,010
that the people putting out that line

2198
01:39:22,980 --> 01:39:20,500
that there was a huge Nazi

2199
01:39:25,530 --> 01:39:22,990
flying saucer research base in

2200
01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:25,540
Antarctica and they chased Admiral Byrd

2201
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:27,700
out of there with flying saucers and Ray

2202
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:30,880
Devils the people putting that story out

2203
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:34,210
by and large are neo-nazis all right now

2204
01:39:38,700 --> 01:39:36,250
I have no doubt that Admiral Byrd may

2205
01:39:40,590 --> 01:39:38,710
have been chased out of Antarctica by a

2206
01:39:42,030 --> 01:39:40,600
bunch of Nazis all right I have no

2207
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:42,040
problem with that but they weren't

2208
01:39:46,050 --> 01:39:43,930
coming from Antarctica if they're coming

2209
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:46,060
from anywhere they're probably coming

2210
01:39:51,690 --> 01:39:48,370
from Cara del Fuego or some base in

2211
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:51,700
southern Argentina but not in Antarctica

2212
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:54,490
now did the Nazis have a base in

2213
01:39:59,010 --> 01:39:57,010
Antarctica probably it may have been a

2214
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:59,020
secret u-boat base it may have been a

2215
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:00,880
little resupply point it may have been a

2216
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:02,560
weather station they may have even

2217
01:40:07,370 --> 01:40:04,210
hidden some things there that they

2218
01:40:10,890 --> 01:40:07,380
didn't want anybody else to find but a

2219
01:40:12,990 --> 01:40:10,900
UFO research base now that leads me to

2220
01:40:16,260 --> 01:40:13,000
another question which I meant to ask

2221
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:16,270
you earlier again from God GOG smacky

2222
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:20,890
one of our you know very prolific

2223
01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:24,400
posters at forum dr. Peric ascom and he

2224
01:40:29,250 --> 01:40:27,190
asked we have a forum member Poulter

2225
01:40:31,230 --> 01:40:29,260
worst who is German and he has often

2226
01:40:34,380 --> 01:40:31,240
stated that the whole paranormal field

2227
01:40:37,740 --> 01:40:34,390
and I assume he means UFOs as well is

2228
01:40:39,930 --> 01:40:37,750
treated with contempt in Germany do you

2229
01:40:42,660 --> 01:40:39,940
have any contacts there who are open to

2230
01:40:45,570 --> 01:40:42,670
topics such as the Nazi bell etc and if

2231
01:40:47,540 --> 01:40:45,580
so do they take an interest secretly due

2232
01:40:49,860 --> 01:40:47,550
to an attitude of most people there

2233
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:49,870
that's that's kind of an interesting

2234
01:40:55,710 --> 01:40:52,330
question I've never had that before I I

2235
01:40:59,190 --> 01:40:55,720
have a number of my books that have been

2236
01:41:01,770 --> 01:40:59,200
published in Germany and and one of them

2237
01:41:04,170 --> 01:41:01,780
is precisely the the SS Brotherhood of

2238
01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:04,180
the Bell which in the German title is de

2239
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:08,710
brutish after Mecca and that tells me

2240
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:10,030
you know that's that's one of the books

2241
01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:11,530
that's been published in Germany I've

2242
01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:14,200
had a couple more that have been bought

2243
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:16,840
by my German publisher so that tells me

2244
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:18,730
that there is the interest in Germany

2245
01:41:28,530 --> 01:41:21,250
and I'll tell you the reason why I think

2246
01:41:29,580 --> 01:41:28,540
that it may be present in Germany German

2247
01:41:32,940 --> 01:41:29,590
reunification

2248
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:32,950
to be Chris is the signal event here

2249
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:33,760
that

2250
01:41:41,170 --> 01:41:37,310
so much of these stories the reason why

2251
01:41:44,860 --> 01:41:41,180
is that within the former eastern zone

2252
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:44,870
within the former East Germany and those

2253
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:47,840
portions of Germany that lie down in

2254
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:51,530
Poland Silesia and Western Pomerania and

2255
01:41:59,160 --> 01:41:56,530
so on you had a lot of these huge Nazi

2256
01:42:02,710 --> 01:41:59,170
installations underground installations

2257
01:42:04,750 --> 01:42:02,720
that weren't on anybody's radar screen

2258
01:42:07,420 --> 01:42:04,760
in other words we couldn't pin these

2259
01:42:10,060 --> 01:42:07,430
installations to any specific project

2260
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:10,070
that had been written about during all

2261
01:42:15,850 --> 01:42:13,570
of those decades of of the two Germany's

2262
01:42:19,780 --> 01:42:15,860
they weren't appearing on anybody's

2263
01:42:22,270 --> 01:42:19,790
radar man and it's interesting that many

2264
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:22,280
of the documents that I refer to in my

2265
01:42:28,420 --> 01:42:26,090
books start being Declassified after

2266
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:28,430
German reunification it's almost as if

2267
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:31,010
the Allies know that jig is up the cover

2268
01:42:38,230 --> 01:42:33,770
story is going to be blown because these

2269
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,240
installations are huge okay and

2270
01:42:44,380 --> 01:42:40,400
self-evidently a lot of them had to do

2271
01:42:47,650 --> 01:42:44,390
with with the German nuclear program so

2272
01:42:50,650 --> 01:42:47,660
I think part of it you see in Germany a

2273
01:42:55,390 --> 01:42:50,660
bunch of authors like Tomas Manor and

2274
01:42:58,270 --> 01:42:55,400
freebish Georg researchers like that

2275
01:43:00,490 --> 01:42:58,280
even even professor Reiner Karl SH that

2276
01:43:03,550 --> 01:43:00,500
have written a number of books now

2277
01:43:06,370 --> 01:43:03,560
challenging the the post-war allied

2278
01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:06,380
legends on the basis of documents that

2279
01:43:11,290 --> 01:43:08,710
have been Declassified on the basis of

2280
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:11,300
access to these installations that used

2281
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:13,850
to live in the Soviet zone so I think

2282
01:43:18,130 --> 01:43:16,490
the Germans are showing curiosity about

2283
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:18,140
these things but they're you know in

2284
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,330
typical German fashion they're being

2285
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:22,400
very cautious and being very thorough as

2286
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:25,040
as to you know how they're going to

2287
01:43:29,290 --> 01:43:27,170
interpret these these installations and

2288
01:43:32,110 --> 01:43:29,300
the science behind them well that that's

2289
01:43:34,420 --> 01:43:32,120
a point well taken and I do remember

2290
01:43:39,010 --> 01:43:34,430
some of the news clips after

2291
01:43:42,060 --> 01:43:39,020
reunification of hordes of you know

2292
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:42,070
radicals you know descending on GRU

2293
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:45,710
headquarters and an outpost and and

2294
01:43:49,900 --> 01:43:47,450
pulling out reams and reams of documents

2295
01:43:52,540 --> 01:43:49,910
you would think that there's there's

2296
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:52,550
going to be some sort of revelations

2297
01:43:58,110 --> 01:43:55,250
that are going to come from that but you

2298
01:44:01,420 --> 01:43:58,120
know the whole idea of the east-west

2299
01:44:04,450 --> 01:44:01,430
dialectic as as you put it in one of

2300
01:44:07,390 --> 01:44:04,460
your books and that whole idea of

2301
01:44:10,450 --> 01:44:07,400
Reinhard gayland and and bring up in in

2302
01:44:12,850 --> 01:44:10,460
saucers swastikas and psyops a really

2303
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:12,860
interesting point that one of the guys

2304
01:44:17,860 --> 01:44:15,650
that was the architect along with Allen

2305
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:17,870
Dulles of Operation Paperclip which

2306
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:20,210
brought over hundreds of of Nazi

2307
01:44:27,070 --> 01:44:23,570
scientists to the West was that we had a

2308
01:44:29,290 --> 01:44:27,080
guy that had literally he was a head of

2309
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:29,300
Soviet and you know anti Soviet

2310
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:31,730
intelligence for the Nazis he was left

2311
01:44:38,050 --> 01:44:35,330
intact with his apparatus intact as an

2312
01:44:40,930 --> 01:44:38,060
intelligent asset intelligence asset for

2313
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:40,940
the United States let's briefly talk

2314
01:44:45,700 --> 01:44:43,280
about that IIIi think that's something

2315
01:44:46,959 --> 01:44:45,710
that we've kind of overlooked here in

2316
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:46,969
the conversation yeah

2317
01:44:52,990 --> 01:44:50,090
is the u.s. understanding and Intel

2318
01:44:54,670 --> 01:44:53,000
about what the actual state of

2319
01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:54,680
scientific development was going on in

2320
01:44:59,620 --> 01:44:56,960
the Soviet Union after the war right

2321
01:45:02,229 --> 01:44:59,630
well what you're referring to there is

2322
01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:02,239
is an organization that Nazi Germany

2323
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:04,190
called friend to Hera posts which means

2324
01:45:09,100 --> 01:45:06,110
foreign armies east it was German

2325
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:09,110
military intelligence we get on to the

2326
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:12,290
explanation about agency okay but it's

2327
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:14,719
also that time for me to interrupt with

2328
01:45:19,970 --> 01:45:16,730
Joseph Farrow you're hearing gene and

2329
01:45:25,710 --> 01:45:19,980
Chris you're in the para cast

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four segments of our session with Joseph

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Farrow and as you can see we're only

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scratching the surface or the subsurface

2394
01:48:11,810 --> 01:48:10,170
depending on your point of view you

2395
01:48:14,750 --> 01:48:11,820
began to talk about a specific

2396
01:48:16,669 --> 01:48:14,760
germination to see Joseph yeah from to

2397
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here to Austin four degrees east

2398
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:18,650
this was the military intelligence

2399
01:48:24,650 --> 01:48:22,170
organization of the German farming in

2400
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:24,660
Eastern Europe and the Soviet bloc and

2401
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:26,370
it was headed by a German general by the

2402
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:28,800
name of Brian Carter Kalin all right now

2403
01:48:35,780 --> 01:48:32,090
toward the end of the war general Galen

2404
01:48:38,570 --> 01:48:35,790
approached the Americans at first

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01:48:40,970 --> 01:48:38,580
through the American general Seibert and

2406
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:40,980
then later in direct contact with Allen

2407
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:43,110
Dulles who later of course becomes one

2408
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:44,850
of the directors in the CIA during the

2409
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:48,330
post-war period now Galen struck a deal

2410
01:48:53,930 --> 01:48:50,730
with the Americans and you literally

2411
01:48:56,689 --> 01:48:53,940
have to read this deal to believe it but

2412
01:48:59,180 --> 01:48:56,699
it's true basically the deal was that

2413
01:49:03,290 --> 01:48:59,190
gaylen's organization would remain

2414
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:03,300
completely intact after the war and his

2415
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:06,090
agents would remain in place in Eastern

2416
01:49:10,060 --> 01:49:08,370
Europe and the Soviet Union now we're

2417
01:49:13,540 --> 01:49:10,070
talking about a military intelligence

2418
01:49:16,669 --> 01:49:13,550
organization at that time with some

2419
01:49:19,340 --> 01:49:16,679
4,000 agents in Eastern Europe and the

2420
01:49:21,890 --> 01:49:19,350
Soviet Union now this organization would

2421
01:49:25,939 --> 01:49:21,900
remain intact it would work for the

2422
01:49:28,910 --> 01:49:25,949
Americans as the American human on the

2423
01:49:30,979 --> 01:49:28,920
ground intelligence presence in Eastern

2424
01:49:34,430 --> 01:49:30,989
Europe and the Soviet Union but the

2425
01:49:37,010 --> 01:49:34,440
operational day-to-day control of that

2426
01:49:39,729 --> 01:49:37,020
organization would remain in general

2427
01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:39,739
Galen spins after the war ultimately

2428
01:49:46,010 --> 01:49:43,710
this organization that becomes when West

2429
01:49:48,590 --> 01:49:46,020
Germany's sovereignty is granted and

2430
01:49:52,189 --> 01:49:48,600
recognized by it by the Western Allies

2431
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:52,199
this organization then becomes the

2432
01:49:56,660 --> 01:49:54,480
German Bundestag Rifton deeds they're

2433
01:49:58,880 --> 01:49:56,670
their version of the CIA which

2434
01:50:01,100 --> 01:49:58,890
incidentally is still around today

2435
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:01,110
so in other words the foundation of the

2436
01:50:08,620 --> 01:50:05,280
modern German version of the CIA is Nazi

2437
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:08,630
in origin and more importantly the

2438
01:50:14,690 --> 01:50:12,090
American intelligence presence inside

2439
01:50:16,850 --> 01:50:14,700
the Soviet Union after the war up until

2440
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:16,860
the point of the grant of West German

2441
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:20,010
sovereignty from 1947 with the creation

2442
01:50:27,530 --> 01:50:22,560
of the CIA and the National Security Act

2443
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:27,540
up until 1954 or 55 the CIA's Soviet

2444
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:31,650
desk is really nothing but a front for

2445
01:50:39,130 --> 01:50:34,890
this Nazi intelligence organization now

2446
01:50:43,190 --> 01:50:39,140
this is huge because this means that

2447
01:50:46,130 --> 01:50:43,200
President Truman's intelligence briefing

2448
01:50:49,810 --> 01:50:46,140
on Soviet military capability and

2449
01:50:53,630 --> 01:50:49,820
intentions is coming directly from a

2450
01:50:57,500 --> 01:50:53,640
Nazi intelligence organization to the

2451
01:51:02,630 --> 01:50:57,510
extent that in some cases all the CIA

2452
01:51:04,940 --> 01:51:02,640
did was to retype verbatim general

2453
01:51:07,490 --> 01:51:04,950
gheylens assessment and analysis and

2454
01:51:10,190 --> 01:51:07,500
simply put it on the CIA letterhead and

2455
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:10,200
pass it on to President Truman so in

2456
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:13,650
other words a bunch of Nazis are telling

2457
01:51:19,060 --> 01:51:16,010
us what Soviet intentions and

2458
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:19,070
capabilities are and in that process

2459
01:51:26,930 --> 01:51:22,560
they are creating and feeding Cold War

2460
01:51:30,290 --> 01:51:26,940
fears that's absolutely crucial they are

2461
01:51:33,020 --> 01:51:30,300
literally the Nazi Trojan horse inside

2462
01:51:35,690 --> 01:51:33,030
of the the post-war American military

2463
01:51:37,970 --> 01:51:35,700
intelligence complex I think that is

2464
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:37,980
huge and is so key when I saw your

2465
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:40,410
documentation on that it all of a sudden

2466
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:45,810
it rang these big Nazi bill my head yeah

2467
01:51:50,300 --> 01:51:47,730
it's a huge story when you stop and

2468
01:51:52,610 --> 01:51:50,310
think about it this means that that

2469
01:51:55,850 --> 01:51:52,620
there is a huge traumatic Trojan horse

2470
01:51:57,920 --> 01:51:55,860
inside of American intelligence then

2471
01:52:00,500 --> 01:51:57,930
you've got the post-war deals between

2472
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:00,510
between the Nazis and the Western

2473
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:03,360
bankers you've got the Nazi penetration

2474
01:52:09,590 --> 01:52:07,530
into to the US Army and US Navy and

2475
01:52:12,109 --> 01:52:09,600
eventually NASA you know building the

2476
01:52:14,689 --> 01:52:12,119
vessels of building the rockets the

2477
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:14,699
it's it's it's fundamentally a huge

2478
01:52:23,330 --> 01:52:18,090
story if if we wonder why America looks

2479
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:23,340
fascist today by my responsible is is

2480
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:25,920
because we made the deal with the

2481
01:52:30,859 --> 01:52:28,320
fascist devil at the end of World War

2482
01:52:33,500 --> 01:52:30,869
two oh you say looks fascist in what

2483
01:52:35,839 --> 01:52:33,510
respect let's be specific well I think

2484
01:52:38,030 --> 01:52:35,849
you know this this idea of a snitch

2485
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:38,040
state culture we've gotten increasing

2486
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:41,280
surveillance curtailing of our civil

2487
01:52:45,050 --> 01:52:42,840
liberties we've got you know this

2488
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:45,060
National Defense Authorization Act which

2489
01:52:51,919 --> 01:52:47,610
you know basically allows you to draw up

2490
01:52:55,490 --> 01:52:51,929
a Gestapo death list so I think you know

2491
01:52:57,770 --> 01:52:55,500
with ten thousand drones being by police

2492
01:53:03,020 --> 01:52:57,780
forces around the country you know it's

2493
01:53:05,089 --> 01:53:03,030
it's Stukas without pilots so you know I

2494
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:05,099
think I think you look at the tendencies

2495
01:53:09,950 --> 01:53:06,960
in our culture that we see who I not

2496
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:09,960
know from my point of view you go back

2497
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:12,090
to the deals that were struck at the end

2498
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:15,119
of World War two with this fascist devil

2499
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:17,130
and I think that's the reason in part

2500
01:53:22,339 --> 01:53:19,110
that you're seeing the transformation of

2501
01:53:24,500 --> 01:53:22,349
America that you're seeing so if we look

2502
01:53:27,010 --> 01:53:24,510
at this and assume it's happening how

2503
01:53:30,500 --> 01:53:27,020
long does it take to get there to get

2504
01:53:32,959 --> 01:53:30,510
well alright assuming we're going to

2505
01:53:35,149 --> 01:53:32,969
move towards some kind of fascist state

2506
01:53:36,859 --> 01:53:35,159
all right we're assuming we're there

2507
01:53:38,660 --> 01:53:36,869
already or do we assume we've made a

2508
01:53:40,879 --> 01:53:38,670
certain degree of progress and if not

2509
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:40,889
stopped well I think the only way I

2510
01:53:45,979 --> 01:53:43,530
think definitely we have to admit that

2511
01:53:47,899 --> 01:53:45,989
there's there's been a certain degree of

2512
01:53:50,839 --> 01:53:47,909
progress yeah

2513
01:53:54,919 --> 01:53:50,849
the Rubicon is way behind us on election

2514
01:53:57,260 --> 01:53:54,929
day here well yeah I think I think the

2515
01:54:00,080 --> 01:53:57,270
Rubicon again I go back to this deal

2516
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:00,090
with Galen and the whole Operation

2517
01:54:06,020 --> 01:54:03,810
Paperclip mentality that that the end of

2518
01:54:09,950 --> 01:54:06,030
defeating communism justified the means

2519
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:09,960
of bringing over you know the clear

2520
01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:15,090
Nazis you cannot look at people like art

2521
01:54:23,330 --> 01:54:18,750
or Rudolph or or very fun Brown who

2522
01:54:25,729 --> 01:54:23,340
clearly knew of and exploit the slave

2523
01:54:28,250 --> 01:54:25,739
labor that at Nordhausen

2524
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,260
and the middle Varick in building their

2525
01:54:32,630 --> 01:54:30,719
rockets and bring these kinds of people

2526
01:54:35,540 --> 01:54:32,640
for that matter who Barrett is struggled

2527
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:35,550
I mean my god here was a man that was

2528
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:37,370
involved in the actual medical

2529
01:54:45,020 --> 01:54:40,650
experiments on on human beings that are

2530
01:54:48,110 --> 01:54:45,030
just barbaric and and doing so as the

2531
01:54:50,030 --> 01:54:48,120
basis for for the Nazi foundations for

2532
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:50,040
space medicine and this character is

2533
01:54:54,860 --> 01:54:52,170
brought over to this country to continue

2534
01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:54,870
the same sort of of development of

2535
01:54:59,570 --> 01:54:57,690
medicine so-called medicine for our

2536
01:55:02,959 --> 01:54:59,580
space program so we're bringing over

2537
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:02,969
these unreconstructed Nazis into this

2538
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:06,570
country we're striking deals with with

2539
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:09,210
Nazi generals and intelligence officers

2540
01:55:14,930 --> 01:55:12,330
I mean my god this is bound to have an

2541
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:14,940
effect on the the bureaucratic culture

2542
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:17,760
of the American agencies involved in

2543
01:55:22,340 --> 01:55:20,370
these projects and ultimately I think

2544
01:55:25,490 --> 01:55:22,350
that that effect of the bureaucratic

2545
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:25,500
culture is going to bleed over into into

2546
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:27,840
public society until they ask you a

2547
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:30,690
question Tran for our listeners benefit

2548
01:55:36,260 --> 01:55:33,330
where we can bring this show on Tuesday

2549
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:36,270
November 6th election day right everyone

2550
01:55:39,890 --> 01:55:37,890
out there we hope depending on how

2551
01:55:41,900 --> 01:55:39,900
things turn out we'll know whether we

2552
01:55:46,250 --> 01:55:41,910
have a President Obama for one more term

2553
01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:46,260
or president Romney okay so knowing that

2554
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:48,239
we don't have the answer when we do this

2555
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:51,330
episode I think it matters who becomes

2556
01:55:54,050 --> 01:55:51,930
president

2557
01:55:57,890 --> 01:55:54,060
or are they all subject to control by

2558
01:56:01,729 --> 01:55:57,900
the industrial complex by the a fascist

2559
01:56:04,010 --> 01:56:01,739
bureaus I got the question I'll be very

2560
01:56:08,270 --> 01:56:04,020
very blunt I do not like talking about

2561
01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:08,280
politics in interviews however that said

2562
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:10,560
I have made it very very clear in any

2563
01:56:16,850 --> 01:56:13,650
number of blogs on my website that I'm

2564
01:56:20,530 --> 01:56:16,860
basically bipartisan in other words I

2565
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:20,540
loathe dummy crooks and Republicans

2566
01:56:27,770 --> 01:56:23,850
equally I think the system is so

2567
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:27,780
corrupted by these so-called two

2568
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:29,760
political parties and the monopolies

2569
01:56:35,660 --> 01:56:32,370
they have on the American electoral

2570
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:35,670
process and their cronies in the media

2571
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:39,450
and that they are so beholden to corrupt

2572
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:40,050
corporate

2573
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:43,650
capitalism that I have not participated

2574
01:56:49,970 --> 01:56:47,850
in any American election since 1988 and

2575
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:49,980
and for very clear reasons in that

2576
01:56:55,460 --> 01:56:51,930
election of the corruption of the Bush

2577
01:56:58,000 --> 01:56:55,470
family and their relationship during the

2578
01:57:00,260 --> 01:56:58,010
war and prior to the war two

2579
01:57:02,750 --> 01:57:00,270
industrialists inside of Germany that

2580
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:02,760
were major backers of Otto Fiedler so

2581
01:57:08,060 --> 01:57:05,360
you know at for my point of view

2582
01:57:10,490 --> 01:57:08,070
personally I look at both of these men

2583
01:57:13,700 --> 01:57:10,500
as sock puppets for that financial

2584
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:13,710
oligarchy for that military-industrial

2585
01:57:18,830 --> 01:57:17,130
complex and a pox on both of their

2586
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:18,840
houses as far as I'm concerned

2587
01:57:23,990 --> 01:57:21,360
don't go anywhere neighbors we've got so

2588
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:24,000
much to talk about not a lot of time but

2589
01:57:29,970 --> 01:57:26,130
stay tuned we have just a feral joining

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gene and Chris you're in the podcast

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podcast we're talking to Joseph Ferrell

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we've been covering the influence of

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Nazi scientists fascist influences how

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it's affecting our society now when

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President Eisenhower at the end of his

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two terms warned of the rise of the

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military-industrial complex was he

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02:02:25,700 --> 02:02:22,590
talking about this that's a great

2695
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question I think gene to some extent he

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ins I truly do and I let me interrupt

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02:02:35,689 --> 02:02:33,599
here there was a certain couple of words

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that were taken out of that statement

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02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:38,730
before he made it and it was the undue

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influence of the military industrial and

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political was stricken from from his

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speech if memory serves me correct ah

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that I didn't know but it would surprise

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02:02:59,930 --> 02:02:54,809
me I think Eisenhower is in the position

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02:03:03,379 --> 02:02:59,940
to know of the vast extent of this Nazi

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02:03:05,660 --> 02:03:03,389
penetration and the cultural influence

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02:03:09,379 --> 02:03:05,670
within those bureaucracies that at hand

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02:03:11,540 --> 02:03:09,389
and coming from the man who had to fight

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02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:11,550
the Nazi war machine I mean the

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02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:13,170
embodiment of a military-industrial

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02:03:19,939 --> 02:03:17,010
complex in a company like IG Farben you

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02:03:22,549 --> 02:03:19,949
know which accounted for most of the

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02:03:24,919 --> 02:03:22,559
industrial output that made the Nazi war

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02:03:26,990 --> 02:03:24,929
machine juggernaut possible I think

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02:03:29,540 --> 02:03:27,000
these these words of his are very

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02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:29,550
measured and I do think that he had

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02:03:37,129 --> 02:03:32,730
definitely in mind something like this

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02:03:39,830 --> 02:03:37,139
post-war American Nazi paperclip Dayton

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02:03:42,250 --> 02:03:39,840
I think he had something in mind like

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02:03:44,930 --> 02:03:42,260
this post-war Nazi international

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02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:44,940
extraterritorial state I wanted to ask

2722
02:03:49,189 --> 02:03:47,250
you another question too uh-huh alright

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02:03:51,260 --> 02:03:49,199
is it possible that the

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02:03:53,870 --> 02:03:51,270
military-industrial complex got rid of

2725
02:03:55,430 --> 02:03:53,880
President Kennedy because he went

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02:03:58,529 --> 02:03:55,440
against them and was going to pull our

2727
02:04:00,479 --> 02:03:58,539
troops out of Vietnam oh yes you know

2728
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:00,489
again I wrote a book that gets

2729
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:03,760
overlooked at my hop called LBJ and the

2730
02:04:08,759 --> 02:04:06,010
conspiracy to kill Kennedy got the

2731
02:04:10,919 --> 02:04:08,769
answer there LBJ did it well not

2732
02:04:13,709 --> 02:04:10,929
completely the subtitle of the book is a

2733
02:04:16,619 --> 02:04:13,719
coalescence of interest and I I spend

2734
02:04:18,449 --> 02:04:16,629
some time in that book pointing out the

2735
02:04:20,939 --> 02:04:18,459
Nazi connections because this isn't an

2736
02:04:23,129 --> 02:04:20,949
aspect of the assassination that that

2737
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:23,139
most other assassination researchers do

2738
02:04:29,369 --> 02:04:25,530
not want to talk about and that's there

2739
02:04:33,500 --> 02:04:29,379
so did Kennedy challenge these power

2740
02:04:36,839 --> 02:04:33,510
bases of what Professor Peter Dale Scott

2741
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:36,849
calls the deep politics the terror

2742
02:04:40,589 --> 02:04:39,010
political structure in this country and

2743
02:04:41,789 --> 02:04:40,599
I think the answer has to be definitely

2744
02:04:44,099 --> 02:04:41,799
yes he did

2745
02:04:45,809 --> 02:04:44,109
and that's why it's so baffling to

2746
02:04:48,319 --> 02:04:45,819
people to look at the Kennedy

2747
02:04:51,509 --> 02:04:48,329
assassination because you do have

2748
02:04:53,489 --> 02:04:51,519
present within it connections to the

2749
02:04:56,389 --> 02:04:53,499
Mafia connections to the intelligence

2750
02:04:58,919 --> 02:04:56,399
community connections to - - and

2751
02:05:01,319 --> 02:04:58,929
connections to you know international

2752
02:05:04,139 --> 02:05:01,329
drug trade and arms trafficking and on

2753
02:05:06,270 --> 02:05:04,149
and on it goes and it is a coalescence

2754
02:05:09,209 --> 02:05:06,280
of interest because he's challenging the

2755
02:05:11,729 --> 02:05:09,219
deep political structure of the post-war

2756
02:05:15,059 --> 02:05:11,739
world and all of these deals with the

2757
02:05:16,919 --> 02:05:15,069
farmer axis elites that that entailed so

2758
02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:16,929
therefore you would say who killed

2759
02:05:21,509 --> 02:05:19,510
Kennedy all of the above all of the

2760
02:05:23,729 --> 02:05:21,519
events where the same thing be true for

2761
02:05:25,139 --> 02:05:23,739
Bobby Kennedy I think so yes you know

2762
02:05:27,029 --> 02:05:25,149
when you talk about all these

2763
02:05:28,979 --> 02:05:27,039
conspiracies and such how the heck do

2764
02:05:32,250 --> 02:05:28,989
you prove it I mean I remember back in

2765
02:05:34,799 --> 02:05:32,260
the late 60s seeing lectures by a former

2766
02:05:36,239 --> 02:05:34,809
New York State Assemblyman Mark Lane who

2767
02:05:38,789 --> 02:05:36,249
wrote the book rush to judgment and he

2768
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:38,799
shows you all the factual discrepancies

2769
02:05:44,849 --> 02:05:41,530
and of course we have the Oliver Stone

2770
02:05:48,299 --> 02:05:44,859
movie all the other stuff so how do you

2771
02:05:51,059 --> 02:05:48,309
prove it well proof is a difficult word

2772
02:05:52,889 --> 02:05:51,069
I think we have to talk in terms of

2773
02:05:55,709 --> 02:05:52,899
persuasion if you're looking for

2774
02:05:57,539 --> 02:05:55,719
absolute proof in any venture you're

2775
02:05:59,159 --> 02:05:57,549
never going to find it the only time

2776
02:06:02,059 --> 02:05:59,169
you're going to find it is it within

2777
02:06:04,919 --> 02:06:02,069
mathematics you know given this

2778
02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:04,929
assumption then then reason from certain

2779
02:06:11,710 --> 02:06:07,119
X form of explicit propositions to the

2780
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:11,720
conclusion to expect that level of proof

2781
02:06:17,590 --> 02:06:14,930
within this type of endeavor is is to my

2782
02:06:19,780 --> 02:06:17,600
mind expecting the impossible I think

2783
02:06:22,540 --> 02:06:19,790
what you have to speak in terms of is

2784
02:06:25,810 --> 02:06:22,550
persuasion you have to get people to

2785
02:06:28,630 --> 02:06:25,820
understand that the official versions of

2786
02:06:31,180 --> 02:06:28,640
these events are mythologies that they

2787
02:06:34,030 --> 02:06:31,190
are far more riddled with holes than any

2788
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:34,040
so-called conspiracy theory and the

2789
02:06:37,540 --> 02:06:35,840
second thing particularly with the

2790
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:37,550
events like Kennedy is we have to

2791
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:39,050
understand we're not dealing with a

2792
02:06:46,570 --> 02:06:42,650
conspiracy in any typical sense we are

2793
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:46,580
dealing rather with the deep power

2794
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:49,520
political structure of of an

2795
02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:51,770
oligarchical system in the post-war

2796
02:06:58,840 --> 02:06:55,360
world that resembles nothing better or

2797
02:07:01,870 --> 02:06:58,850
nothing more analogous than that of

2798
02:07:05,020 --> 02:07:01,880
medieval Venice you're dealing with an

2799
02:07:08,290 --> 02:07:05,030
oligarchy that has its fingers and

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02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:08,300
tentacles in every aspect of the levers

2801
02:07:11,710 --> 02:07:10,490
of power and therefore you're dealing

2802
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:11,720
with something very different than

2803
02:07:16,210 --> 02:07:14,810
conspiracy in the ordinary sense but

2804
02:07:21,340 --> 02:07:16,220
nonetheless you're dealing with

2805
02:07:24,490 --> 02:07:21,350
something vast and truly beyond most

2806
02:07:27,100 --> 02:07:24,500
people's experience so the difficulty is

2807
02:07:30,430 --> 02:07:27,110
is communicating all of this in adequate

2808
02:07:31,990 --> 02:07:30,440
detail to make people question the

2809
02:07:35,170 --> 02:07:32,000
official versions of events

2810
02:07:37,180 --> 02:07:35,180
all right so Joseph Farrow and some

2811
02:07:38,980 --> 02:07:37,190
other authors question the official

2812
02:07:46,150 --> 02:07:38,990
version of offense has anyone tried to

2813
02:07:51,430 --> 02:07:46,160
come after you as a result sorry I made

2814
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:51,440
a joke it's let's put it this way I've

2815
02:07:57,310 --> 02:07:53,810
had weird things happen to me I can't

2816
02:08:00,130 --> 02:07:57,320
honestly say that that other than one

2817
02:08:01,900 --> 02:08:00,140
incident a few years ago I had I can't

2818
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:01,910
honestly say that anybody is coming

2819
02:08:09,250 --> 02:08:06,290
after me I've had one individual fairly

2820
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:09,260
well-known in this alternative research

2821
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:12,530
community tell me privately to my face

2822
02:08:16,930 --> 02:08:14,330
and I'm not going to say who this

2823
02:08:20,260 --> 02:08:16,940
individual is it would be very readily

2824
02:08:22,060 --> 02:08:20,270
recognizable to people tell me that the

2825
02:08:24,899 --> 02:08:22,070
only reason I've been left alone as I

2826
02:08:28,110 --> 02:08:24,909
came out of left field so far

2827
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:28,120
it's so fast and so suddenly that you

2828
02:08:31,260 --> 02:08:29,530
know they would have offed me otherwise

2829
02:08:33,209 --> 02:08:31,270
well I don't know if that's true or not

2830
02:08:36,930 --> 02:08:33,219
I don't know I like I say I've had

2831
02:08:40,379 --> 02:08:36,940
strange things happen I have had my mail

2832
02:08:42,810 --> 02:08:40,389
opened I've had I've had computer

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02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:42,820
screens freeze and private chat with

2834
02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:46,290
people about these topics I've had an

2835
02:08:52,530 --> 02:08:49,120
unusual circumstance for friends of mine

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02:08:55,290 --> 02:08:52,540
in a never narrowing circle we're being

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02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:55,300
beaten up and so on and so forth and it

2838
02:09:00,689 --> 02:08:58,000
looked like it was coming toward me but

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beyond that I can't say that I have

2840
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you know bullet holes of my windshield

2841
02:09:10,229 --> 02:09:07,360
or cut brake lines well that brings me

2842
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:10,239
up to a question that got our faithful

2843
02:09:15,870 --> 02:09:13,570
forum poster GOx Mackey posted here and

2844
02:09:17,610 --> 02:09:15,880
this kind of puts you on you know a

2845
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:17,620
little bit on I don't know sort of on

2846
02:09:22,770 --> 02:09:20,110
point here do you distance yourself from

2847
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:22,780
the work of Richard Hoagland now yes

2848
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:25,330
remember when they you guys often

2849
02:09:29,129 --> 02:09:27,250
appeared on shows together but the

2850
02:09:31,740 --> 02:09:29,139
consensus seems to be these days that

2851
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Hoagland is churning out stuff now with

2852
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little regard to real data / truth right

2853
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yes yes I do distance myself from yeah

2854
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you mentioned before the majestic 12

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documents in passing and it seemed that

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you accepted them as as being real where

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do you come down on the magic 12

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documents okay its cliffhanger time once

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again all right so we're gonna have to

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pause for a moment before we get you the

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answer about the controversial mj-12

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documents and by the way if you want to

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hi this is Don Ecker and you are tuned

2952
02:14:49,010 --> 02:14:46,650
in to the para cast let me tell you what

2953
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:49,020
you're gonna hear stuff here that you

2954
02:14:55,730 --> 02:14:52,530
probably won't hear anywhere else hear

2955
02:14:58,100 --> 02:14:55,740
that George Noory we have Joseph Ferrell

2956
02:15:00,490 --> 02:14:58,110
joining us again on the power cast as we

2957
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:00,500
continue on focusing on the

2958
02:15:05,150 --> 02:15:03,090
controversial mj-12 documents of course

2959
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:05,160
we have the original one with Eisenhower

2960
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:07,650
briefing document how do you come down

2961
02:15:15,590 --> 02:15:11,010
on this well there are so many of you

2962
02:15:18,140 --> 02:15:15,600
know as you say to come down you know

2963
02:15:20,630 --> 02:15:18,150
blanket endorsement or denial is not

2964
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:20,640
what I'm about I subject beginning and

2965
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:22,290
Reich of the Black Sun and running

2966
02:15:28,340 --> 02:15:24,570
through SS Brotherhood of the Bell and

2967
02:15:30,500 --> 02:15:28,350
even on into a certain extent in Roswell

2968
02:15:32,780 --> 02:15:30,510
on the right I subject a number of the

2969
02:15:37,030 --> 02:15:32,790
magic 12 documents particularly of the

2970
02:15:39,500 --> 02:15:37,040
Cooper can't bill set to a review and

2971
02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:39,510
with many of them I'm kind of like

2972
02:15:45,890 --> 02:15:42,480
Stanton Friedman that that I view them

2973
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:45,900
or put them in my gray basket I think

2974
02:15:50,140 --> 02:15:48,330
there's enough truth in many of them to

2975
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:50,150
suggest that even if they are

2976
02:15:55,670 --> 02:15:53,250
intentional disinformation in order to

2977
02:15:58,760 --> 02:15:55,680
make this information work you have to

2978
02:16:01,610 --> 02:15:58,770
have enough solid information in a

2979
02:16:04,190 --> 02:16:01,620
document in order for them to hook the

2980
02:16:06,110 --> 02:16:04,200
intended target and I think it's very

2981
02:16:07,910 --> 02:16:06,120
clear that in many of these documents

2982
02:16:09,980 --> 02:16:07,920
you do have enough of that sort of

2983
02:16:12,110 --> 02:16:09,990
information that that whoever's behind

2984
02:16:15,710 --> 02:16:12,120
them is coming up with some pretty

2985
02:16:18,110 --> 02:16:15,720
profound information I referenced him

2986
02:16:20,990 --> 02:16:18,120
earlier in this program simply the fact

2987
02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:21,000
that in some of these documents you have

2988
02:16:26,090 --> 02:16:23,850
in the in the aftermath of the Roswell

2989
02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:26,100
event if you have American military

2990
02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:28,050
officials consulting German scientists

2991
02:16:32,810 --> 02:16:31,170
which to me seems rather odd if you're

2992
02:16:34,550 --> 02:16:32,820
coming to the conclusion of the

2993
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:34,560
preliminary conclusion that this is an

2994
02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:37,530
extraterrestrial craft and you have to

2995
02:16:41,450 --> 02:16:38,910
understand that when I'm citing

2996
02:16:44,210 --> 02:16:41,460
documents in that way I'm doing so in

2997
02:16:47,420 --> 02:16:44,220
the form of well let's assume for the

2998
02:16:51,179 --> 02:16:47,430
sake of argument type of reasoning I'm

2999
02:16:54,089 --> 02:16:51,189
not reliant I want to stress this

3000
02:16:56,959 --> 02:16:54,099
I am NOT reliant upon an argument that

3001
02:17:00,540 --> 02:16:56,969
says these documents are if so facto

3002
02:17:02,669 --> 02:17:00,550
real and authentic and therefore basing

3003
02:17:05,309 --> 02:17:02,679
my argument on them I hope I hope that's

3004
02:17:07,049 --> 02:17:05,319
clear I hope that you understand that

3005
02:17:12,330 --> 02:17:07,059
that's why I brought the question oh

3006
02:17:16,139 --> 02:17:12,340
yeah as for mr. homeland without getting

3007
02:17:18,449 --> 02:17:16,149
into details at one point we had

3008
02:17:21,239 --> 02:17:18,459
intended to do a book and nothing ever

3009
02:17:22,889 --> 02:17:21,249
seemed to develop from that there were a

3010
02:17:26,910 --> 02:17:22,899
number of other disappointments I had

3011
02:17:29,580 --> 02:17:26,920
and I've simply I've simply had to

3012
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:29,590
depart company because I you know what I

3013
02:17:36,029 --> 02:17:32,050
do is research it may be speculation but

3014
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:36,039
at least I try to to offer reason and to

3015
02:17:42,089 --> 02:17:40,300
offer some sort of a documentary or you

3016
02:17:44,219 --> 02:17:42,099
know some sort of some sort of backing

3017
02:17:45,870 --> 02:17:44,229
through things now on previous episodes

3018
02:17:47,699 --> 02:17:45,880
of the podcast we've had some

3019
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,709
fascinating discussions about Hoagland

3020
02:17:53,029 --> 02:17:49,840
and about Mike Berra in the meantime

3021
02:17:56,279 --> 02:17:53,039
let's divert back to the subject of UFOs

3022
02:17:59,069 --> 02:17:56,289
okay so not all of them are necessarily

3023
02:18:02,580 --> 02:17:59,079
Nazi born secret weapons does that mean

3024
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:02,590
BTW is there well it could mean any

3025
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:05,050
number of things it could mean ET is

3026
02:18:09,689 --> 02:18:06,969
there it could mean some sort of

3027
02:18:11,729 --> 02:18:09,699
subterrestrials are there we've got you

3028
02:18:16,169 --> 02:18:11,739
know two thirds of this world is ocean

3029
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:16,179
and we haven't even been to ocean floors

3030
02:18:23,429 --> 02:18:19,050
it could mean any number of things I

3031
02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:23,439
think I think we have to be very very

3032
02:18:29,009 --> 02:18:26,409
cautious in ascribing origins to these

3033
02:18:32,370 --> 02:18:29,019
things we have to look at planetary

3034
02:18:34,500 --> 02:18:32,380
geology we have to entertain not only an

3035
02:18:37,469 --> 02:18:34,510
extraterrestrial hypothesis we might

3036
02:18:40,469 --> 02:18:37,479
have to entertain a subterrestrials to

3037
02:18:42,029 --> 02:18:40,479
team entertain aquatic one you know

3038
02:18:44,129 --> 02:18:42,039
there's lots of things we have to think

3039
02:18:46,259 --> 02:18:44,139
about but the key here is that we don't

3040
02:18:47,849 --> 02:18:46,269
just look for one answer I mean part of

3041
02:18:50,429 --> 02:18:47,859
the problem in the UFO field these days

3042
02:18:52,979 --> 02:18:50,439
is that so many people expect that it's

3043
02:18:54,899 --> 02:18:52,989
et and only ET and that's another

3044
02:18:57,419 --> 02:18:54,909
question too if we have this secret

3045
02:18:59,609 --> 02:18:57,429
agreement to bring fascism to the

3046
02:19:01,679 --> 02:18:59,619
world's governments and secret

3047
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:01,689
agreements about Nazi inventions

3048
02:19:06,759 --> 02:19:04,250
what about secret agreements that can

3049
02:19:09,339 --> 02:19:06,769
the origin of UFOs do we really know

3050
02:19:12,129 --> 02:19:09,349
that someone know well that's an

3051
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:12,139
excellent question in other words do I

3052
02:19:15,220 --> 02:19:13,969
think it possible that there's a certain

3053
02:19:18,419 --> 02:19:15,230
degree of international cooperation

3054
02:19:20,410 --> 02:19:18,429
about the phenomenon and and what is

3055
02:19:24,820 --> 02:19:20,420
publicly released and discussed

3056
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:24,830
absolutely I do you know I'm not I tend

3057
02:19:28,360 --> 02:19:26,570
to be kind of like what you have

3058
02:19:30,310 --> 02:19:28,370
suggested in the way you formulated that

3059
02:19:32,379 --> 02:19:30,320
question for me

3060
02:19:34,450 --> 02:19:32,389
I'm not philosophically opposed to the

3061
02:19:39,070 --> 02:19:34,460
idea of extraterrestrials but my

3062
02:19:43,299 --> 02:19:39,080
experience with many if not most people

3063
02:19:45,879 --> 02:19:43,309
in the field of ufology is that for them

3064
02:19:48,250 --> 02:19:45,889
it's a religion

3065
02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:48,260
everything is interpreted along and

3066
02:19:53,860 --> 02:19:50,720
extra-terrestrial hypothesis such that

3067
02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:53,870
to challenge it is either to be ignored

3068
02:19:58,390 --> 02:19:56,330
or or to be a you know considering

3069
02:20:01,990 --> 02:19:58,400
something of a skeptic and I'm neither

3070
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:02,000
these things oh man does that sound

3071
02:20:10,810 --> 02:20:09,170
familiar gene you have some more

3072
02:20:15,460 --> 02:20:10,820
questions from our friend doc smacky

3073
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:15,470
okay I do and this goes back to one of

3074
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:17,450
my favorite books that you've written is

3075
02:20:23,770 --> 02:20:21,170
is the cosmic war and Gog smack he asks

3076
02:20:25,450 --> 02:20:23,780
Joseph I've heard over I've heard you

3077
02:20:27,970 --> 02:20:25,460
over the years talking about an

3078
02:20:29,970 --> 02:20:27,980
interplanetary war that may have

3079
02:20:33,850 --> 02:20:29,980
happened in our solar system in the past

3080
02:20:36,790 --> 02:20:33,860
he's read - he's yet to read the cosmic

3081
02:20:41,140 --> 02:20:36,800
war but he asked if you could elaborate

3082
02:20:43,690 --> 02:20:41,150
on this particular view and what is the

3083
02:20:45,940 --> 02:20:43,700
source material for this claim okay the

3084
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:45,950
source material is very simple you look

3085
02:20:52,990 --> 02:20:48,650
at a lot of Mesopotamian texts like the

3086
02:20:56,110 --> 02:20:53,000
epic of nanar - the loot oh hey dr. Hass

3087
02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:56,120
is epic you look at certain Korean

3088
02:21:01,300 --> 02:20:59,120
material you look at certain Egyptian

3089
02:21:02,650 --> 02:21:01,310
material like the edge food temple texts

3090
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:02,660
and so on and so forth so in other words

3091
02:21:07,930 --> 02:21:05,840
the source is basically ancient texts

3092
02:21:09,970 --> 02:21:07,940
from that region of the world Egypt

3093
02:21:13,570 --> 02:21:09,980
Egypt or Mesopotamia but you'd also have

3094
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:13,580
to look at the Vedic texts like the

3095
02:21:20,660 --> 02:21:17,040
Mahabharata or the the Ramayana that

3096
02:21:22,970 --> 02:21:20,670
about these Wars of the gods again even

3097
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:22,980
Greek mythology you know the the Wars of

3098
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:25,290
the Titans against the gods

3099
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:29,370
you have you have cosmic war stories or

3100
02:21:35,810 --> 02:21:31,680
mythologies basically from all over the

3101
02:21:40,460 --> 02:21:35,820
world now the interesting thing is that

3102
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:40,470
if you look at some of these texts and

3103
02:21:47,780 --> 02:21:42,690
I'm thinking in particular of the end of

3104
02:21:49,820 --> 02:21:47,790
my leash from from Mesopotamia the epic

3105
02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:49,830
of nirn era and so on if you look at

3106
02:21:59,960 --> 02:21:53,130
some of these Babylonian or Sumerian

3107
02:22:02,720 --> 02:21:59,970
texts you're reading things that really

3108
02:22:06,140 --> 02:22:02,730
defy classification as a mythology

3109
02:22:09,340 --> 02:22:06,150
because they are so bland in some sense

3110
02:22:14,960 --> 02:22:09,350
and boring they're there they're like

3111
02:22:18,140 --> 02:22:14,970
reading newspaper accounts today but at

3112
02:22:21,740 --> 02:22:18,150
the same time you have descriptions of

3113
02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:21,750
physics in these things that to my mind

3114
02:22:26,750 --> 02:22:24,450
can only indicate that you're dealing

3115
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:26,760
with texts that were handed down from a

3116
02:22:31,730 --> 02:22:29,610
very very high antiquity and a highest

3117
02:22:34,940 --> 02:22:31,740
civilization otherwise they make no

3118
02:22:38,570 --> 02:22:34,950
sense and I review these texts in the

3119
02:22:40,610 --> 02:22:38,580
cosmic War also in the Giza Death Star

3120
02:22:44,420 --> 02:22:40,620
destroyed and what you end up with

3121
02:22:46,310 --> 02:22:44,430
looking at them a certain way is you end

3122
02:22:48,130 --> 02:22:46,320
up with an interplanetary war you have a

3123
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:48,140
civilization with an interplanetary

3124
02:22:53,630 --> 02:22:50,850
capability and they end up just like

3125
02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:53,640
George Lucas's Star Wars movies blowing

3126
02:22:57,980 --> 02:22:55,290
up a planet right here in our solar

3127
02:23:00,350 --> 02:22:57,990
system now it's interesting because the

3128
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:00,360
19th century astronomers that were

3129
02:23:05,780 --> 02:23:02,370
looking for a planet in the asteroid

3130
02:23:08,540 --> 02:23:05,790
belt we're looking there in that region

3131
02:23:11,150 --> 02:23:08,550
precisely because astronomical

3132
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:11,160
mathematical law said there should be a

3133
02:23:16,150 --> 02:23:13,920
planet there and when they began to find

3134
02:23:19,160 --> 02:23:16,160
the asteroids in the early 19th century

3135
02:23:21,860 --> 02:23:19,170
they came to the conclusion yeah we

3136
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:21,870
found the planet but it appears that

3137
02:23:26,750 --> 02:23:25,170
this planet blew up that it exploded now

3138
02:23:31,670 --> 02:23:26,760
the interesting thing is these

3139
02:23:36,511 --> 02:23:34,590
yes the man who can tip thought I can

3140
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:36,521
change the course of mighty river's bend

3141
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:39,420
steel in his very high and forget it

3142
02:23:46,350 --> 02:23:42,610
that's right they called this planet

3143
02:23:49,051 --> 02:23:46,360
Krypton now in recent times that

3144
02:23:51,710 --> 02:23:49,061
exploded planet hypothesis was revived

3145
02:23:54,301 --> 02:23:51,720
by the former US Naval Observatory

3146
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:54,311
astronomer dr. the late dr. Tom Van

3147
02:23:59,610 --> 02:23:54,970
Flandern

3148
02:24:01,950 --> 02:23:59,620
and what really interests me is that in

3149
02:24:03,450 --> 02:24:01,960
his book dark matter of missing comets

3150
02:24:05,880 --> 02:24:03,460
and new planets or something like that I

3151
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:05,890
could never get that title straight he

3152
02:24:12,180 --> 02:24:08,410
comes up with several different models

3153
02:24:15,780 --> 02:24:12,190
as to why a planet should suddenly and

3154
02:24:18,301 --> 02:24:15,790
spontaneously explode before our show

3155
02:24:20,761 --> 02:24:18,311
explodes uh-huh we have Joseph Ferrell

3156
02:24:28,120 --> 02:24:20,771
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visit one world wacom that's one world

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this is the wrong plaque author of the

3256
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UFO encyclopedia other books you're

3257
02:28:59,580 --> 02:28:56,630
listening to the parrot cat so why

3258
02:29:02,291 --> 02:28:59,590
should the mythical Krypton or explode

3259
02:29:03,881 --> 02:29:02,301
explode why should it explode Joseph

3260
02:29:06,940 --> 02:29:03,891
Ferrell is going to answer that question

3261
02:29:09,671 --> 02:29:06,950
or attempt to answer it as I was saying

3262
02:29:12,190 --> 02:29:09,681
before the break the late dr. Travis

3263
02:29:15,430 --> 02:29:12,200
Lander proposed several models you know

3264
02:29:18,341 --> 02:29:15,440
he he came up with a spontaneous nuclear

3265
02:29:20,680 --> 02:29:18,351
fission model you know a natural nuclear

3266
02:29:23,591 --> 02:29:20,690
reactor and there are such things that

3267
02:29:27,091 --> 02:29:23,601
went supercritical and exploded that of

3268
02:29:29,890 --> 02:29:27,101
course being a scientist he knows that

3269
02:29:31,690 --> 02:29:29,900
efficient reaction of the magnitude to

3270
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:31,700
explode a planet is very very unlikely

3271
02:29:37,180 --> 02:29:34,730
for certain reasons bound up with the

3272
02:29:38,950 --> 02:29:37,190
processes of nuclear fission well then

3273
02:29:41,591 --> 02:29:38,960
he comes up with the idea okay

3274
02:29:43,150 --> 02:29:41,601
maybe somehow in the center of this

3275
02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:43,160
planet there was a bunch of antimatter

3276
02:29:48,461 --> 02:29:45,530
that that was kept apart from the matter

3277
02:29:50,501 --> 02:29:48,471
and for some reason the continuent broke

3278
02:29:52,961 --> 02:29:50,511
down and of course she had the total

3279
02:29:54,580 --> 02:29:52,971
annihilation reaction a lot of energy

3280
02:29:58,751 --> 02:29:54,590
was released in the planet blew up

3281
02:30:01,961 --> 02:29:58,761
well again you can kind of tell from the

3282
02:30:03,700 --> 02:30:01,971
way he couches it even the idea of a

3283
02:30:06,940 --> 02:30:03,710
natural containment of that much

3284
02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:06,950
antimatter is is really stretching it so

3285
02:30:11,230 --> 02:30:09,170
Van Flandern himself when you read his

3286
02:30:13,270 --> 02:30:11,240
book the really interesting thing as

3287
02:30:15,070 --> 02:30:13,280
having proposed all of these mechanisms

3288
02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:15,080
these natural models

3289
02:30:20,680 --> 02:30:18,530
he finally sort of in my opinion admits

3290
02:30:23,921 --> 02:30:20,690
defeat and says well there's one final

3291
02:30:28,060 --> 02:30:23,931
possibility we need to consider and that

3292
02:30:31,810 --> 02:30:28,070
is deliberate action and that's that's

3293
02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:31,820
his words in other words he doesn't want

3294
02:30:36,850 --> 02:30:34,250
to come right out and say somebody

3295
02:30:40,330 --> 02:30:36,860
pressed a button had a technology and

3296
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:40,340
blew it up that's what he doesn't want

3297
02:30:46,301 --> 02:30:42,950
to talk about and I suspect the reason

3298
02:30:48,461 --> 02:30:46,311
why is if immediately if you start

3299
02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:48,471
talking like that you're thinking George

3300
02:30:52,841 --> 02:30:50,330
Lucas you're thinking Star Wars you're

3301
02:30:55,180 --> 02:30:52,851
thinking it was done in a war well in

3302
02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,190
point of fact if you look

3303
02:30:59,350 --> 02:30:57,280
some of these ancient ethics that's

3304
02:31:01,240 --> 02:30:59,360
exactly what they're talking about

3305
02:31:03,790 --> 02:31:01,250
they're talking about that kind of

3306
02:31:05,620 --> 02:31:03,800
technological sophistication and they

3307
02:31:09,070 --> 02:31:05,630
are talking about your near planetary

3308
02:31:11,020 --> 02:31:09,080
wars so in other words put put two and

3309
02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:11,030
two together you're talking about

3310
02:31:15,850 --> 02:31:13,040
ancient myths and you've got local

3311
02:31:22,240 --> 02:31:15,860
celestial evidence that somebody blew up

3312
02:31:24,850 --> 02:31:22,250
a planet antium on Marduk and Tiamat

3313
02:31:26,650 --> 02:31:24,860
precisely so that basically is the

3314
02:31:30,131 --> 02:31:26,660
cosmic war in a nutshell and

3315
02:31:31,930 --> 02:31:30,141
incidentally I deliberately conceived in

3316
02:31:34,270 --> 02:31:31,940
the whole arch of my books I

3317
02:31:37,180 --> 02:31:34,280
deliberately conceived of the book the

3318
02:31:40,270 --> 02:31:37,190
cosmic war as being the Keystone in the

3319
02:31:42,460 --> 02:31:40,280
arch that unites them all so in other

3320
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:42,470
words I regard that book as the

3321
02:31:48,700 --> 02:31:44,960
centerpiece in in the arch of all of the

3322
02:31:54,970 --> 02:31:48,710
others okay so if this planet was blown

3323
02:31:59,890 --> 02:31:54,980
up did anyone survive I think we were

3324
02:32:01,330 --> 02:31:59,900
rescued from Mars no I think that's an

3325
02:32:04,570 --> 02:32:01,340
excellent question I think what you had

3326
02:32:07,930 --> 02:32:04,580
is an interplanetary civilization that

3327
02:32:09,940 --> 02:32:07,940
was based on this planet possibly on the

3328
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:09,950
moon why are some of the satellites of

3329
02:32:16,390 --> 02:32:12,370
the gas giants and so on in the wake of

3330
02:32:18,660 --> 02:32:16,400
that war you had such devastation that I

3331
02:32:22,390 --> 02:32:18,670
think you had surviving elites

3332
02:32:24,580 --> 02:32:22,400
particularly on this planet that were

3333
02:32:26,770 --> 02:32:24,590
left to pick up the pieces as best as

3334
02:32:29,051 --> 02:32:26,780
they could and and to preserve as much

3335
02:32:31,870 --> 02:32:29,061
of that knowledge as they could so yeah

3336
02:32:34,330 --> 02:32:31,880
I think people survive I think some of

3337
02:32:37,511 --> 02:32:34,340
the survivors were here there may be

3338
02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:37,521
other survivors out there somewhere I

3339
02:32:42,070 --> 02:32:39,410
don't know but I do think there were

3340
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:42,080
survivors is that why you account for

3341
02:32:47,170 --> 02:32:45,050
the ubiquity of these legends and we go

3342
02:32:49,270 --> 02:32:47,180
back to Atlantis Lemuria we can go back

3343
02:32:51,970 --> 02:32:49,280
to Richard shaver and the D rose and T

3344
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:51,980
rose right yeah that's exactly what I'm

3345
02:32:56,200 --> 02:32:52,370
saying

3346
02:32:58,450 --> 02:32:56,210
I think I think it's the survivors let

3347
02:33:00,610 --> 02:32:58,460
me go further Jane I'll explain what my

3348
02:33:03,690 --> 02:33:00,620
model is I think that you have

3349
02:33:07,720 --> 02:33:03,700
essentially two elites the elite

3350
02:33:08,591 --> 02:33:07,730
surviving this war that was on the side

3351
02:33:11,230 --> 02:33:08,601
of the Vanquish

3352
02:33:13,631 --> 02:33:11,240
and the elite that survived this war

3353
02:33:16,450 --> 02:33:13,641
that was on the side of the victors and

3354
02:33:19,780 --> 02:33:16,460
by a necessity of the case they had to

3355
02:33:22,360 --> 02:33:19,790
make common cause and one of the first

3356
02:33:25,211 --> 02:33:22,370
things they had to figure out was how do

3357
02:33:28,870 --> 02:33:25,221
we preserve as much of the scientific

3358
02:33:31,810 --> 02:33:28,880
knowledge that gave the possibility of

3359
02:33:34,570 --> 02:33:31,820
the civilization how do we preserve as

3360
02:33:37,270 --> 02:33:34,580
much of that as possible and my answer

3361
02:33:41,350 --> 02:33:37,280
to that question is they did so in the

3362
02:33:44,490 --> 02:33:41,360
form of myth and the reason why is when

3363
02:33:47,350 --> 02:33:44,500
you are looking at a collapse of a high

3364
02:33:49,930 --> 02:33:47,360
scientifically sophisticated culture if

3365
02:33:52,751 --> 02:33:49,940
you're looking at the collapse of the

3366
02:33:55,860 --> 02:33:52,761
scientific jargon or language then the

3367
02:33:58,320 --> 02:33:55,870
type of language that next best

3368
02:34:01,600 --> 02:33:58,330
approximates the ability to communicate

3369
02:34:04,030 --> 02:34:01,610
advanced truths is the language of

3370
02:34:08,470 --> 02:34:04,040
metaphysics it's the language of

3371
02:34:11,791 --> 02:34:08,480
religion it's the language of mythology

3372
02:34:17,230 --> 02:34:11,801
and this is what they do they create

3373
02:34:19,690 --> 02:34:17,240
this who's a true scientific content can

3374
02:34:22,570 --> 02:34:19,700
only begin to be appreciated when

3375
02:34:25,450 --> 02:34:22,580
humanity once again begins to arrive at

3376
02:34:28,961 --> 02:34:25,460
a certain plateau of scientific

3377
02:34:32,171 --> 02:34:28,971
development such that once it takes that

3378
02:34:35,501 --> 02:34:32,181
scientific worldview and begins to look

3379
02:34:38,261 --> 02:34:35,511
at those myths it can begin to see that

3380
02:34:41,350 --> 02:34:38,271
at least some of those myths contain a

3381
02:34:43,330 --> 02:34:41,360
scientific truth and therefore it might

3382
02:34:45,370 --> 02:34:43,340
be necessary therefore to look at all of

3383
02:34:48,430 --> 02:34:45,380
those myths in that way I think we are

3384
02:34:52,301 --> 02:34:48,440
at that point in human history well here

3385
02:34:54,910 --> 02:34:52,311
right here now yeah I absolutely agree I

3386
02:34:58,211 --> 02:34:54,920
couldn't agree more I think that was

3387
02:35:01,961 --> 02:34:58,221
eloquently stated and again I do urge

3388
02:35:04,091 --> 02:35:01,971
our listeners to get up to speed Joseph

3389
02:35:06,730 --> 02:35:04,101
P Ferro I don't know how many books

3390
02:35:10,120 --> 02:35:06,740
you've written now Joe at this point but

3391
02:35:12,700 --> 02:35:10,130
I recommend them all the cosmic war

3392
02:35:16,301 --> 02:35:12,710
really opened my eyes it was like taking

3393
02:35:18,850 --> 02:35:16,311
a very kind of microscopic sort of

3394
02:35:20,801 --> 02:35:18,860
telescopic view that Sitchin came up

3395
02:35:22,301 --> 02:35:20,811
with and looking at across culturally

3396
02:35:25,030 --> 02:35:22,311
and saying well

3397
02:35:26,680 --> 02:35:25,040
it's not only the sumerians it was it

3398
02:35:29,051 --> 02:35:26,690
was the whole mesopotamian you know the

3399
02:35:30,790 --> 02:35:29,061
the evolution of Mesopotamian cultures

3400
02:35:33,370 --> 02:35:30,800
it was it was Egypt it was if the

3401
02:35:35,650 --> 02:35:33,380
Harappan cultures you know there's

3402
02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:35,660
there's elements in in South America and

3403
02:35:41,051 --> 02:35:38,450
Mesoamerica this is all really important

3404
02:35:42,881 --> 02:35:41,061
stuff I really recommend these these

3405
02:35:44,650 --> 02:35:42,891
books and then if you really want to get

3406
02:35:48,580 --> 02:35:44,660
into the 20th century stuff obviously

3407
02:35:51,040 --> 02:35:48,590
your your your books on on on manmade

3408
02:35:53,740 --> 02:35:51,050
UFOs for lack of a better general term I

3409
02:35:57,301 --> 02:35:53,750
think are just highly recommended by

3410
02:35:59,381 --> 02:35:57,311
this humble co-host there okay thank you

3411
02:36:01,511 --> 02:35:59,391
Joseph let me ask you a brief question

3412
02:36:04,060 --> 02:36:01,521
because we're about out of time I know

3413
02:36:06,341 --> 02:36:04,070
you've got a huge and rich library that

3414
02:36:09,180 --> 02:36:06,351
I'm going to have to catch up on this

3415
02:36:11,410 --> 02:36:09,190
recent book saucers swastikas and psyops

3416
02:36:13,421 --> 02:36:11,420
those of our listeners who want more

3417
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:13,431
information can you give them something

3418
02:36:19,150 --> 02:36:15,290
about the direction that they could look

3419
02:36:22,591 --> 02:36:19,160
into yeah you get all of my books off of

3420
02:36:27,131 --> 02:36:22,601
my webstore on my website and the email

3421
02:36:31,030 --> 02:36:27,141
or the the address of that is WWE's

3422
02:36:34,360 --> 02:36:31,040
death Starcom that's all one word all

3423
02:36:36,220 --> 02:36:34,370
lowercase there's a webstore there they

3424
02:36:38,110 --> 02:36:36,230
get they can get all my books by

3425
02:36:41,801 --> 02:36:38,120
ordering right off off the web store

3426
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:41,811
he's a Death Star common by the way when

3427
02:36:46,270 --> 02:36:43,730
you click on Joseph Farrell's name over

3428
02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:46,280
at the parent cast com magically

3429
02:36:50,140 --> 02:36:48,290
amazingly it takes you to that site he's

3430
02:36:52,480 --> 02:36:50,150
got a blog there by the way were express

3431
02:36:55,211 --> 02:36:52,490
his opinions about the things he's

3432
02:37:02,410 --> 02:36:55,221
talked about here like no confidence in

3433
02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:02,420
this in friends s election oh boy that

3434
02:37:10,870 --> 02:37:05,840
stuff so it's there so that's it is it

3435
02:37:14,350 --> 02:37:10,880
any wonder why America am URI ka is so

3436
02:37:16,540 --> 02:37:14,360
screwed up and we can go on on for that

3437
02:37:19,480 --> 02:37:16,550
kind of story now we're listeners have

3438
02:37:21,220 --> 02:37:19,490
questions that we could answer here they

3439
02:37:23,230 --> 02:37:21,230
could write you at your site yeah

3440
02:37:25,570 --> 02:37:23,240
there's a there's a contact but on my

3441
02:37:27,580 --> 02:37:25,580
site the only thing I ask is that your

3442
02:37:29,591 --> 02:37:27,590
listeners put all capitals in the

3443
02:37:33,220 --> 02:37:29,601
subject header of the email because I

3444
02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:33,230
get tons of email so if they want me to

3445
02:37:42,091 --> 02:37:35,450
open them that's my signal to do

3446
02:37:44,591 --> 02:37:42,101
ah the secret recipe is all-caps

3447
02:37:46,960 --> 02:37:44,601
listeners don't forget to tune in to

3448
02:37:50,620 --> 02:37:46,970
forum dr. Peric ask.com

3449
02:37:52,600 --> 02:37:50,630
for the conversation that's definitely

3450
02:37:53,680 --> 02:37:52,610
going to ensue about our episode here

3451
02:37:55,450 --> 02:37:53,690
with Joseph P Pharoah

3452
02:37:58,511 --> 02:37:55,460
yes that's going to be the aftermath

3453
02:38:00,011 --> 02:37:58,521
forum dr. Peric ascom yeah and Chris

3454
02:38:01,480 --> 02:38:00,021
being one of the moderators are going to

3455
02:38:03,580 --> 02:38:01,490
have a good time we invite you all so

3456
02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:03,590
juice if will tell you after episodes

3457
02:38:07,930 --> 02:38:06,290
over how you can participate and answer

3458
02:38:10,511 --> 02:38:07,940
more questions from our listeners

3459
02:38:12,850 --> 02:38:10,521
southbend posted even after we record

3460
02:38:16,180 --> 02:38:12,860
this episode by the way you can find us

3461
02:38:17,921 --> 02:38:16,190
if you go on Twitter you can find us we

3462
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:17,931
are known as the para cast we're the

3463
02:38:21,881 --> 02:38:20,090
power cast on Twitter and Chris O'Brien

3464
02:38:24,341 --> 02:38:21,891
has a site too and he'll tell you very

3465
02:38:27,011 --> 02:38:24,351
briefly what he has to offer our strange

3466
02:38:28,660 --> 02:38:27,021
planet I'll have an update on my trip

3467
02:38:31,780 --> 02:38:28,670
down to Palenque with David hatchet

3468
02:38:33,940 --> 02:38:31,790
Childress and armloads and upwards you

3469
02:38:37,450 --> 02:38:33,950
know I think we're hopefully going to

3470
02:38:39,580 --> 02:38:37,460
move into a new period of no change and

3471
02:38:42,220 --> 02:38:39,590
transformation on the planet I'm an

3472
02:38:43,120 --> 02:38:42,230
optimist our strange planet calm is the

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place to go

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Joseph Farrell thank you for joining us

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[Music]

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the para cast featuring Jim Steinberg

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and Christopher o'brien

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is a copyrighted presentation of making

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the impossible Incorporated tune in next